Whcich joystick?

I've been playing IL-2 with my mates sytek Cyborg or whatever its called. But he took it back. I just sold something on ebay and am feeling like buying a joystick.

Theres a couple of options. I can go for the Saitek EVO - which is really good (recommended by pcgamer, has good reviews, and is similar to the one i used so should be good)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=59886

Another option is to pay another 5er and get a force feedback joystick. Now, i have a force feedback wheel - and it makes a real difference. I am not sure how vital it would be in a joystick. The options for these are:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=59889
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=43104
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=14688

None of these seem like as good a joystick as the EVO generally. But maybe the rumble makes it worth it? They all seem to have slightly dodgy top buttons, none of them have adjustable supports and they don't look anywhere near as nice as the EVO.

Anyone used any of these? And how useful is force feedback on em?
Might order today so a swift reply would be welcome.

ooh....hornets nest re opens ;)

I HATE FORCE FEEDBACK.....TUMBLE LOVES IT>.....and Dak swapped from one to the other.

Most guys use Saitek of some sort...me and Rias have both Cyborg Platinum and Evo...she uses Platinum with throttle on front edge...I use Evo with it on back edge.

Plat is softer spring...Evo is firmer...

both ACE quality...

DON'T get the RUMBLE stick.... it's pants and hasn't got a rudder twist.. frankly it feels poo as well... the force stick I use is the Cyborg 3D... and that cost me near £70.... If ya REALLY wanna push the boat out... the X52 is just around the corner ;)

i moved away from force feedback

force feedback is good but also bad you can feel a stall before it happens yet it can kill you on takeoff ,i wouldnt go with any logitech 1 tho ,the ones ive seen ive hated tbh

EVO it is then. Cheers.

and weirdly PC WOrld are good value for Sticks

The evo is over 6 quid more in pcworld this time. I am also getting a couple sucky usb extenders and some stuff for my mates. And i had a free delivery token from ebuyer. Although 1 week for shipment is taking the pish.