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    How to land.....a guide.

    Loose height way before the run way, and fly FLAT.....ie it LOOKS like your nose is down, but thats cos the tail fin flying too.......

    come in TOO slow and put power back on.......try to not come in too fast, cos to bleed speed is hard, but to get it back is easy with your engine.

    I drop to combat flaps quite early to give me stability, and then to take off flaps and then landing flaps just as I touch down...and you land FLAT...that means it feels like your propellor tips are just gonna touch ground....look at the artificial horizon on your dash board.....get the lines lined up and see how ya look....

    then fly along the ground and DONT lean too much or it will drop a wing....

    as speed drops and the tail falls to the floor, pull gently BACK to keep the wheel down (we are now going slow enough that you have no lift and cant "hop" ....and to slow faster, gently tap the B (brake button) but dont hold it down cos you'll stick your nose in....

    So.....in low and slow and gain speed to make it to the runway....

    fly along and let her fall onto the runway....flat...

    let the tail wheel drop on her own........and once its down properly, gently pull back.....

    dab at the brakes....



    If you come in HOT....FAST.......lean the plane one way and twist the rudder the other....make her "slip" through the air sideways........do that a lot, keep changing directions.....you'll bleed speed.....

    barrel rolls also loose speed......

    but they tend to loose wings on the floor too

    Good luck pilot

    S!


    PS look in oyur control settings and set a Quick Record Track button...

    USE IT....

    then watch the track afterwards...go EXTERNAL and use [ ] button to slow it down, and P to pause....

    see where you are going wrong.....and look at the beauty of the FB AEP flight model

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    The key is getting a good steady slow approach. A good easy way to reduce a lot of speed before landing is to reduce power (almost to idle) and keep a high nose attitude. The speed and height will bleed off quickly. Once you have established a slow approach speed, keep it stable with the flaps and point at the runway. To an extent you can use the flaps to brake (but only if you're going slow enough - otherwise it'll be the flaps that break), but their primary function is to keep the aircraft flyable and stable at slow speeds. Once you are slow you should keep the control movement quite gentle, a sudden movement at slow speed might start a spin. If you're on a good approach the runway should stay the same shape. If it starts to flatten out you're going too low, and will need to add power to avoid coming down in the rough stuff. If it starts to elongate, you're getting too high. The important thing is to come in at as slow a speed as possible. Then as the ground gets close cut the power and pull back gently on the stick, and you should sink down onto the main wheels, or if you get it just right, a nice three pointer. After landing keep the stick pulled back until the tail comes down, and even after that, just to keep the plane well and truly glued down until you slow. Small dabs on the brakes should prevent the embarrasing nose over.

    Watch how the AI land and note their approach speed and the speed at which they touch down (do this by sticking your aircraft on autopilot). Try to emulate this and your landings will dramatically improve.

    And think and plan ahead.

    Of course theory goes out of the window if there's a load of people shooting at you. My advice in that case is don't land. Fight them!
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    Yea don't try and land 'em like a modern aircraft with a nosewheel. Don't flare. The tailwheel comes down last.
    To err is human. To really foul things up ... you need a computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamangman
    The tailwheel comes down last.
    except in a P39? which I think has got a nose wheel....

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    P38 Lightning has a nosewheel too I think. I was just referring to the majority of WWII aircraft. Still, I havn't flown the P-38 yet, and I would assume the landing in that is fairly flat, becuase the rear wheels are so far forward the tail boom would be hitting the ground. Alls I can say is keep at it, you'll get it nailed in the end. Then try landings with various bits of your aircraft missing
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    the p38 is a tricky one. if you come down too hard or too fast it bounces (not small hops, but a big old bounce that takes you back up to 50ft or so). There's enough leeway to flare with it, as the landing gears are pretty tall - you'd have to be at quite an extreme angle to hit the tail. There's certainly room for a little flare with the tailwheels too. Get it right and the three pointer will follow! Get wrong and your tail falls off

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    Thanks guys. I will give it a go when I get home from work tonight. What a nice bunch of chaps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by menthel
    Thanks guys. I will give it a go when I get home from work tonight. What a nice bunch of chaps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
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