Pillars of Eternity

[kalniel]

Have been a bit tied up with Minecraft and World of Tanks lately, but had a bit of a play with this last week. I have only played a few hours, with two different characters, one a Hunter with a bear pet and the other a Warrior type, with a sword and board.

I can get past the "tutorial" area fine, but then when I get to the next zone, I keep getting my backside handed to me by a bear in a cave and 3 outlaws standing around a fire. I guess I could avoid them, but why is it so hard so early on?

It's not too hard - you're meant to avoid the bear, there are plenty of warning signs of danger if you go that way. The game doesn't have auto-scaling, so as a fresh faced adventurer you're not all and mighty. Learn some humility and make sure you're playing on easy

I think I need to try again. What's the easiest class to start off with do you think?

They're all much of a muchness since there are no class restrictions on weapons/armour etc. It may be that you're dragging along some preconceptions from other rpgs that makes you think that warriors should wear bulky armour and mages should be in rags or something. A ranger is one of the easier starters simply because they get a companion straight away. Chanters can likewise summon skeletons, so that all takes some flak off you or allows for flanking bonuses.

Anyway, I'm a huge Neverwinter Nights fan - so much so that no matter what other cRPGs I pickup I always end up going back to it and starting another campaign; just one more run through (honest! ). Is this the game to finally break my addiction? Sounds like it might be a decent replacement so far....

No, wait for Storm Coast Legends.

This is a BG/IWD/PS:T replacement, not so much NWN.

[scaryjim]

... wait for Storm Coast Legends. ...

Just looked at website. CAN. NOT. WAIT!

oh, hang on - based on the screenshots it's Forgotten Realms, but not D20. Perhaps I can wait after all.

Neverwinter (online) took a decent pop at stripping down 4e to make it more suitable for cRPG usage, so I guess non-D20 isn't a deal-breaker, but I do miss being able to cross-pollinate cRPG and pen and paper characters. Or perhaps I should just prod some of my friends and get a 4e game going again....

[kalniel]

We try to forget 4th Ed exists. 5th ed is so much better.

[Dooms]

So I started my paladin last night. The first zone after the opening bit where you are now alone...

Started a fight with the 3 bandits, killed the rogue and archer then started hitting the sword & board guy - it was taking a while so I went and made dinner while they were hacking at each other. 30min later still hacking at each other.

Bit of a stalemate

[scaryjim]

We try to forget 4th Ed exists. 5th ed is so much better.

I like 4th, but it ain't D&D. Nice skirmish wargame though 5th feels like the game that 3rd was the playtest for. Loving it to bits so far (but then I played pretty much every playtest pack too, so it feels like I've been playing 5th for about 3 years ).

... started hitting the sword & board guy ... 30min later still hacking at each other. ...

Ah, so it is based on 4th ed after all Definitely not for me if that's typical though: can't stand long lasting fights. If it takes more than 3 hits to kill and its not a boss, I'm obviously not powerful enough

[Dooms]

Ah, so it is based on 4th ed after all Definitely not for me if that's typical though: can't stand long lasting fights. If it takes more than 3 hits to kill and its not a boss, I'm obviously not powerful enough

Problem is my main is 100% tank. 8 might and 6 dex = barely scratching him. If I had a single other character with me I would of been fine... when I do that start area again on another character I'll just skip that zone, get a couple recruits in the next area and then come back and kill everything

[scaryjim]

Problem is my main is 100% tank. 8 might and 6 dex = barely scratching him.

I have a mate who always plays characters like that; his opinion is that he can kill anything you put in front of him as long as he has time!

[kalniel]

Ah, so it is based on 4th ed after all Definitely not for me if that's typical though: can't stand long lasting fights. If it takes more than 3 hits to kill and its not a boss, I'm obviously not powerful enough

My battles are very short - and in general PoE is much quicker in combat than Divinity Original Sin, and somewhat quicker then the old IE games and NWN. Even better is that harder difficulties don't have just harder stats for the bad guys - there are more of them/different types instead. Only the very hardest mode also tweaks the stats. They're so quick that there's even an option to slow down time in combat (in addition to the pause at any time).

On the otherhand, if you're a tank, you can speed up time too Though that stalemate is pretty funny

[Geist]

Enjoying the game greatly and I'm only a handful of hours into it. I have restarted a couple times for different classes, think I've done the intro bit four times now.

I've not had anything jump out at me as a unique feature or 'wow why don't all games do that'. Everything is very smooth and refined though and I think they've done an excellent job.

While it is a similar style of game to Divinity Original Sin, I don't think they should be compared directly. Eternity feels to me as a modern Baldur's Gate, a traditional RPG party game. D:OS felt original with new ideas such as the magic interaction with the environment . The two player Co-op was also amazing. Both are great, but play and feel very different.

[Bagnaj97]

Now available for under a tenner on cdkeys - http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/pilla...tion-pc-cd-key

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Now available for under a tenner on cdkeys - http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/pilla...tion-pc-cd-key

Avoid them,as after I made a purchase through paypal,they asking to ring my phone number for "security purposes" before they send the code??

WTF??

There are no address details let alone even a UK contact number.

Luckily I could use a secondary number which is not important.

For example,simplycdkeys which is supposedly UK based,never needed to do that!

[Allen]

Odd, have used cdkeys.com plenty, never had an issue, key delivery has always been instant.

However, Shattered Crystal used to call you to confirm your location, they would ask you about nearby locations. Didn't bother me, it's nice that they add a little bit of security IMO.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Odd, have used cdkeys.com plenty, never had an issue, key delivery has always been instant.

However, Shattered Crystal used to call you to confirm your location, they would ask you about nearby locations. Didn't bother me, it's nice that they add a little bit of security IMO.

For all you know it could be run from someones shed in China or Russia...

You have no clue what they do with the numbers and they are not covered by any UK laws or if international neither are they big enough either to have some sort of ability to harrang them.

FUNNY,that Valve(Steam) have never needed to call have they?

Some fringe seller does.

Ignorance can be bliss.

Edit!

I have read about some of the ways they have tried to get information from people - examples including asking for people for pictures of documents which prove their address and even picture IDs like passports!! So I assume they destroy all that info after they have done with it then? Oh,wait you don't even know what part of the world they are located in outside an e-mail yet they know more about you and where you are located....

What for a digital code sent via e-mail.

Probably explains why they are cheap.

Second Edit!!

Saw this on reddit,and its not the first time people have complained about them.

Avoid them like a plague!!!

I payed for a game with my working PayPal account, I use it all the time for buying and selling. It was supposed to be instand delivery.

First they told me they won't send me the game until I confirm some code via SMS. Ok, whatever, I did it. But no. Apparently that wasn't enough. They told me they won't send me the game unless I send them a scan od my ID or passport AND a scan of my bank statement AND a handwritten note. Which, of course, they never got and I got a refund.

Never again, CJS!

Its not the first time it appears they tried that trick and its legit requests from them.

Yet,where is THEIR address and phone numbers??

No where on the site.

Will they send me a copy of their relevant business licenses so I can verify they are legit??

I guess not.

[Allen]

Wow man, calm down... And calling people ignorant for using a site based on previous positive reviews isn't exactly helping your statement.

Maybe they have changed management? Maybe the site has been hacked? I'm not a huge user of cdkeys.com (5 orders, last in March), but have never experienced any of the issues you mention. Normally I do not purchase from sites that don't give out an address or phone number, but they were recommended by some reputable members of this very forum. If they are doing what you say they are now doing, it will be unlikely I purchase from them again. But I do vote with my feet if a company pisses me off (for example Scan, I haven't given them a penny since the Reevoo debacle).

Also, that second quote looks like it is about CJS Keys. Although I have never had an issue with them either (one purchase). They were also recommended by reputable members of Hexus.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I was rather annoyed about that day - sorry if I was Mr Angry,but luckily I had another phone number which I could use.

Also,Pillars of Eternity pissd me off too. Played for two hours,made a few saves and then I manage to die. Then the game deleted all my save files,so I need to start again.

Not sure I want to play this game now,if my progress randomly vanishes and I end up at the start again.

[kalniel]

I was rather annoyed about that day - sorry if I was Mr Angry,but luckily I had another phone number which I could use.

Also,Pillars of Eternity pissd me off too. Played for two hours,made a few saves and then I manage to die. Then the game deleted all my save files,so I need to start again.

Not sure I want to play this game now,if my progress randomly vanishes and I end up at the start again.

I've never had that issue - sure it's not steam cloud problems rather than the game?