What ARE the extra gun pods for on a FW190?

I dropped them cos, as you all pointed out, it was messing up my airflow ;)

and the wing mounted additional canons are so powerfull, it scares me to pull the trigger.....so WHAT are the BIG OLD BOYS for? The ones that hand under the wings.

I am having trouble matching data from IL2 site to the planes actual flying characterisitcs. The engines all seem unbreakable, even with War Power on, but it confuses the life outta me.

Im sure its the A9 with extra inner wing guns....but the Website says its only Machine Guns all round..which is wierd cos I boomed a bomber in such a huge way the other day I was SURE they must be canons. It just detonated into a billion bits.

Also, while we're on ARMAMENTS........the IL2 3M :)

How much stuff can that bitch carry? Mammoth guns with mammoth ammo reserves, Rockets under the wings AND bombs...but I cant say that the sighting is very easy...the Il2 has a see thorugh frisbee for a gun sight....whats THAT all about? Im crap anyway but that is just useless. Unless Im doing it wrong (again) . Anyone else an IL2 plane devotee?

I love ground battering sessions. TiGster and I had a full hour of taking outt AAA sites for a laff......and this thing is THE machine.

(However, out of the blue TiG became best mates with a MNig 3 with 2 SHVAC canons and cleared up ;))

The 190 underwing cannons are Mk103 30mm. (As opposed to the prop/airframe mounted Mk108

Although the Mk108 had a very high rate of fire for a 30mm cannon, the 103 was more powerful. Suffice to say you hit a target with a Mk103 round there is a fair chance that it will not survive, probably pound for pound the best weapon in the game.

This picture might give you a fair idea

http://www.skiisworld.plus.com/images/aircraftround.jpg
Edit - patience my dear Triglet ;)

That picture mite give us a fair idea of what, how not to link an image? ;)

A cannon round especially one as large as a 30mm is a devastating thing on an airframe. Whereas the machine guns require a high rate of impacts on a smal area to cause structural failure a handful of 30mm rounds could be sufficient to cause total catasrophic failure.

The ROF may be lower but as you need significantly less hits and don't require the tight bullet impact group to cause the damage it's far superior IMHO.

Patience?
What do you think I am a doctor?
:P

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A cannon round especially one as large as a 30mm is a devastating thing on an airframe. Whereas the machine guns require a high rate of impacts on a smal area to cause structural failure a handful of 30mm rounds could be sufficient to cause total catasrophic failure.

The ROF may be lower but as you need significantly less hits and don't require the tight bullet impact group to cause the damage it's far superior IMHO.

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Not in all situations..Although for bomber busting yes its also a more difficult beast to bring to bear in snap shot situations. In high angle deflection shots (snap shots) give me the MGs anyday over a cannon

In real life high angle deflection shots were a waste of time for most pilots, you're average fighter pilot could muster 5 hits from a 2 second burst of 8 .303 Brownings. But you are right to some extent that's why you have a blend of MGs and caonon on many WWII vintage fighters even spitfires adopted this. It gives you a good balance of ROF and power.

But really you should always just go for the age old tactic of gettin on their tail and firing at point blank range or make slashing passes from above before swooping up again to gain heght for another attack

Listen to him ;)

Slashing passes ? hehe.....that will be Trig out of the window of an He111 while taking a leak ;)

Seriously.....my gunnery skills are so low that I am simply looking for trhe best aircraft to HOSE the oppoasition with......like a mini gun in Q3 ;)

Then, as you scream past me in the first pass, if I get ya you die...if not, 3 -8 minutes later I die .

Its my new equation to life...forget Speed is Life.....or Altitude is your friend......

BIG GUN ON FIRST PASS........then run like a tart ;)

lol,

That worked quite well online as pairs did it not tho Zak?, commit, get a run in, leg it, get your wingman to get the guy following you and then have a go?.

TiG

Taking a leak out of a 111 window :eek: I didnt think anyone noticed :D

Just remember not to fly under my plane when we get the B17 :D

Big gubs are kewl. One shot, one kill. My old P39 was a beaut for that. :D

Lowe.....get in the air soon mate :)

I still find speed and angle are key factors in a kill, keep the angle minimal to avoid deflection and keep speed high and you'll be able to hit the enemy hard and be away within moments.

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I still find speed and angle are key factors in a kill, keep the angle minimal to avoid deflection and keep speed high and you'll be able to hit the enemy hard and be away within moments.

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Absolutely, however in a Boom n' Zoom situation where you are relying on speed, you will find many of your attacks to be at extreme deflection, requiring you to be firing a burst well before the enemy has flashed across your sights, this is where the reqiurement to get in close is paramount.

Not that bad if you take my appraoch which is to fire at point blank range and then take extreme evasive action to avoid collision.

Trust me u so dont want Lowe in the air, he makes me n Dak look like total nibs with his P39 ownage....

Lowe....Id pay to see that;)

If you still need memory for your PC, PM me and I'll sort it ASAP :)

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Trust me u so dont want Lowe in the air, he makes me n Dak look like total nibs with his P39 ownage....

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Now now, I'm sure that's not true. Maybe in the early days but I bet you lot have caught up in leaps and bounds. :)

Zak, whilst your offer is very generous I'll politely decline. I'll get there in the end matey, just gotta make me car stop first. :eek: :D

BS thar Lowe ;)

I'm at the stage now where u were then, you obviousl picked it up faster than I did and will do the same again, give it a few flights n you'll be away again :)

I have spare DDR PC2100 courtesy of Deck who had some PC2700 from me and I p/x'd the older PC2100 in...memory, cars, its all the same thing ;)

/Ponders 2000ft tail slides again.

Hmm. ;)

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I still find speed and angle are key factors in a kill, keep the angle minimal to avoid deflection and keep speed high and you'll be able to hit the enemy hard and be away within moments.

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In an ideal world thats what we all should be going for, however if you can get to grips with the high angle deflection shots then it will create more opportunities and if you find yourself out numbered they are often the only shot you can get in. Lock onto somebody for to long and his mate will nail you :)

Playing the il-16 in campaign mode i was quite impressed at having 6 rockets on bomber intercept missions, get on the tail of a multi engined bomber and give em two rockets and they just disintergrate.

Now thats what i call big gun first pass.

most likely to be an I153 with rockets......at least for bomber runs.

i dont like making too many passes on a heinkell, so rockets up its ass limits my damage.