Tadah! Here comes the Canon 50D ...

[xfactor]

I couldn't find the news posted on hexus.

So, there it is, Canon 50D, officially announced:

The official announcement came today and everything tallies with what we saw on Friday. 15.1 megapixel CMOS sensor (with 1.6x crop factor), a big 3″ LCD screen, Live View (for previewing images on the screen), ISO running up to 12800 (in a special, try-not-to-use-it hidden mode) and, possibly the most interesting, Canon’s new image processing chip, the DIGIC 4. In digicams, the two things which impact the picture quality (after the light has made it in through the lens) are the sensor and the image processor. The 50D is the first Canon camera to use the new DIGIC 4 chip, and it appears to be an incremental upgrade.

If you have a fast enough memory card (Compact Flash) then you’ll get a whopping 90 jpeg images in a single burst, at up to 6.3 fps. RAW shooters see a smaller improvement: you get 16 shots before the camera pauses for breath. The new DIGIC also includes face detection (up to 35 faces!) and in-camera vignetting controls with supported EF lenses. This last gets the rather fancy title of “Peripheral Illumination Correction”. There is also built-in sensor cleaning along with dust removal software which, in a fit of alliteration, Canon has named “Dust Delete Data Detection”. Other goodies include HDMI out and nine-point autofocus. The price for all these whizz-bang features? $1400.

Source: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/0...makes-eos.html

Canon's website: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...delFeaturesAct

Looks like a sweet upgrade

XF

[Saracen]

I've seen one suggestion of £1199.99 for the UK price. That may well be way off the beam, but if it's right, street price had better be a LOT lower or I'll not be interested.

It's an improvement, perhaps, on the 40D but, based entirely on the spec, it remains to be seen how big a one.

15m pixels? Whoop-de-do. Yawn.

DIGIC IV? .Maybe. Hopefully. But it depends on actual image results.

Face detection? Oh please.

I'm interested in one, but not at anywhere near £1200. If it's £1200, I'll be thinking D300 ..... and I've been a Canon user for a LONG time.

[Bobster]

$1200 so will be around 800 here

ISO3200 the same as ISO1100-1600 on 40D - the ISO1600 shot i've seen looks like an ISO400 shot!!

AF is improved on the 40D, so is going to be near 1D standards!

15.2mp means that you'll need professional glass to get full use of that res..

buffer for 16RAW files is going to be great for sports shooters and sequence shots..

i was going to upgrade to 40D's this year, but i think i'll hold off until early next year for 50's

live view the same res as on the new Nikons, but instead of the slideshow you get on the Nikon, its a smooth 30fps!

I've seen one suggestion of £1199.99 for the UK price. That may well be way off the beam, but if it's right, street price had better be a LOT lower or I'll not be interested.

It's an improvement, perhaps, on the 40D but, based entirely on the spec, it remains to be seen how big a one.

15m pixels? Whoop-de-do. Yawn.

DIGIC IV? .Maybe. Hopefully. But it depends on actual image results.

Face detection? Oh please.

I'm interested in one, but not at anywhere near £1200. If it's £1200, I'll be thinking D300 ..... and I've been a Canon user for a LONG time.

[Funkstar]

I think i'll probably end up getting one of these come the start of the year.

Interesting that the 50D is not replacing the 40D, they are going to live side by side, like the 400D and 450D. I was actually half expecting a 45D to be announced instead of the 50D.

I wonder if they will introduce another model in Febuary, thats when the 50D should have been announced going by the previous pattern ever since the 10D was announced.

[Saracen]

Yup, but the price I'd seen suggested was £1200, not $1200. I was also told Jessops (yes, I know, Jessops are Jessops) were taking pre-orders at £1200. It was also said that US prices were around $1300/$1400, so £800 would certainly seem more consistent .... unless Canon start to do an Adobe with their exchange rates.

At £800 for an initial price, and then settling down a bit after early adopters finish paying through the nose, I'd think about it.

If the AF is good enough, or if the benefits to image quality are good enough, then it becomes of interest to me at the right price. But not at £1200 or anywhere close.

The 40D can be got for £540/£550-ish these days, so I'd need to be convinced, even at £800, that it was £250 better. I don't see any chance of it being £650 better.

[Funkstar]

WarehouseExpress are also taking pre-orders at £1200. You do get a free 8GB SanDisk Extreme III and a kit bag, so they are kind of accnowedging it is over priced

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/prod...o=kits_bundles

If I was at home I could look back through my email archives to see what the 450D and 1000D were first offered at and compare that to now. But I'm not, so I can't

[Bobster]

the 40D was priced @ 1100 when it was first anounced, but it soon came in @ 850

[Saracen]

The first prices I remember seeing for the 40D were around the £800 to £850 mark, and certainly by the time the major magazine reviews started appearing, they were quoting £899.99 as being list price.

But it needs to be remembered, the price I mentioned as being suggested was just speculation. As far as I'm aware, no official prices, either for RRP or the channel, have yet been announced. Pre-order pricing from retailers may just be place-holder prices. That's why I said the street price would have to be a lot lower for me to be interested. There may be people that would pay £1200, but a number of people I know that are waiting for this won't go anywhere near that.

[Ramedge]

this camera looks so cool, I was thinking of upgrading to a Nikon D300 but after seeing what this camera can do its made me want to get rid of my nikon gear and move to canon! its an impressive camera.
It looks like it would compete with a D700 and probably has better ISO performance and is almost half the price but i am guessing its not a full frame format camera?

dam you canon!

[Saracen]

this camera looks so cool, I was thinking of upgrading to a Nikon D300 but after seeing what this camera can do its made me want to get rid of my nikon gear and move to canon! its an impressive camera.
It looks like it would compete with a D700 and probably has better ISO performance and is almost half the price but i am guessing its not a full frame format camera?

dam you canon!

Well, if Canon manage to get better ISO performance, including noise levels, out of 15m pixels on an APS-C sensor than Nikon can get out of only 12m pixels on a class-leading full-frame sensor, I'll be surprised. The 50D will sell like hotcakes if they do, but I'm not holding my breath. Time will tell, though.

[HSK]

Looks good, maybe next year when I think I need an upgrade...cause the initial price is a lot.

[joshwa]

The EOS 50D (body only) is available from end of September 2008 priced at £1199.99 / €1599.99 RRP inc. VAT.
The EOS 50D EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM kit is available from end of September 2008 priced at £1499.99 / €1949.99 RRP inc. VAT.

Seems expensive, especially compared to US prices!

[Stoo]

*nod*

also in the "wait and see" group here..

Hopefully the price will drop pretty rapidly

[Saracen]

So the next issue is how close to list price the street price will be. List price is, of course, completely irrelevant since almost all dealers ignore the hell out of it. And rightly so.

I certainly can't see anything in the spec that would justify (to me at least) the 50D be double the price of the 40D.

A 30% cut on list would strike me as about typical. It certainly used to be, but I haven't compared for a few years.

[BUFF]

AF is improved on the 40D,

is it? a no. of articles that I've read today say that it's the same.

buffer for 16RAW files is going to be great for sports shooters and sequence shots..

but it's slightly less than a 40D isn't it (albeit file sizes will be much bigger)?

£1200 for a 50D or a D300, I thgink that I would take the D300.
& not to mention that Nikon UK had the D90 press conference today (so expect all the announcements tomorrow) so it may get attacked from below as well as above.

[Stoo]

Comparison with the 40D: http://www.komar.org/faq/camera/canon-50d-versus-40d/



Interestingly enough, the US launch list price is only $100 more for the 50D, which should bode well for rapid price drops