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Interesting, 70-200 attached to a NEX....
Canon makes an APS-C mirrorless camera too:
http://www.camerapricebuster.com/Can...n-EOS-M-System
However,AF is slow and the camera is a bit chunky too:
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca.../verdict.shtml
rox0r (24-05-2013)
Indeed, the EOS-M is widely regarded as a bit of a duffer when compared to the competition. I'm not brand loyal, I would dearly miss the creamy lushness of both the 70-200 and 17-55 but they're both very expensive toys that don't get as much usage as their pricetag warrants. I'm not making money from this hobby, as much as I'd like to, so I need to come back down to earth and get my priorities straight.
I think I'll take a mooch into the cameramart on my lunch break and fondle an Oly OM-D for a while and see how I feel about it.
Well, my mind is pretty much made up. Olympus OM-D it is.
Now to deliberate over lens choices...
not interested in the Fujifilm X-Pro1 then?Originally Posted by rox0r
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The FujiFilm thing could be interesting, just not today!
As it stands, it isn't a system yet, its just a very interesting camera. It's APS-C sensor doesn't actually use a bayer sensor. This is great for somethings, but sadly it isn't a remotely mature technology.
Add in the lack of lenses, weather sealing, in-body stabilisation, not too mention the massive cost, I don't think anyone could recommend the X-Pro1 for this kind of thing..... Yet! As it stands it just isn't sharp as the rivals, any SNR benefit of its APS-C sensor have been lost, for a £1000 body you expect a lot more!
Check out the dpreview comparisons:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1/25
I can't see how they charge such a price for something which hasn't got much in the way of a system around it, and offers worse quality than the lighter systems in micro 4/3rds land!
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Beat me to it fella.
It's not that I'm not interested in it Bob, quite the polar opposite it's a fabulous body but the Olympus wins as a system.
Things will naturally change as they are wont to do and Fuji may well become the crown king this time next year but I'm not one for waiting for the next big thing.
If I'm going to press the button on this decision it's based on what's available and comparable right now.
There is also the Fuji XE1 too and more lenses are in the process of being launched for the series,including the Zeiss Touit series.
Actually there is another X series body being rumoured to be launched too and this will be cheapest yet.
They still need to up their game in quality of sensor thou cat. I doubt they will get this done with their refresh.
Their main selling point is that its APS-C rather than micro 4/3rds, but they aren't delivering quality above that of a good micro 4/3rds. A bigger sensor, does not a better quality image make.
I don't think anyone is writing them off though, it is interesting, just not there yet, and nothing has been announced that makes me think it will be there in 6 months or even a year.
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AFAIK,the X-Trans sensor is meant to be pretty good though,so I am not sure where you are getting that it isn't??
Its probably one of the finest sensors out there at the APS-C level,and the colour processing on top of this is pretty good. If anything the X-PRO1 body did not do it justice,although things are getting better with newer firmware updates.
Just that it isn't for the money good, I posted the DPReview image comparison bit. Sadly DXO Labs haven't done anything with it.
I'm not saying people would be disappointed, I applaud them for trying something but Bayer filter pattern, however it still sorely lacks compared to say a much cheaper DSLR or a Nex. Or beats a much more expensive cannon
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AFAIK,at the time the review was done,the RAW support for the Fuji format was not that great. Its changed now. Its a very capable sensor and the system does have some sharp lenses too,and this is why an entry level body might be quite interesting.
I do like the OM-D E5 too,due to its size,weather sealing and good lenses,although I do find it a tad on the expensive side:
http://www.camerapricebuster.com/Oly...B-12-50mm-lens
The 12-50MM has not a bad range,but the F3.5 to F6.3 aperture range is a tad meh.
You can get a K30 with the 16-50MM/F2.8 which is also weather sealed and has a pentaprism for only around £150 more.
OTH,I seem to be rather smitten by the GR Digital after looking at it some more now,maybe I should not be talking about value for money!!
I think the issue I have with the Fuji, is they haven't taken the time to demonstrate how its better. Marketing gumpf aside, it lacks many features I'd want on paper. It's a £1k camera with no weather sealing, yet is the kind of camera you wouldn't want a bag for. It has no IS, and a poor maximum ISO, which makes me worries about noise performance even if unjust.
The whole area of digital photography is probably going to be having a bit of a shakeup, much in the same way digital did to film originally.
Smartphones have changed everything and are forcing the mindset of what people want. Lots of people now want something that can take better photos, because they've hit the limits of their phones capababilities, but without their smartphone they wouldn't have ever taken so many photos.
This massive jump in photos each person has taken per month, is going to drive some considerable demands in the consumer space. A £80 point and click? No thanks, my phone does good enough quality, that it's not an upgrade.
Hopefully this will mean we see some really good innovation, no doubt in mirrorless space due to the much lower construction costs.
But I fear that Fuji are still transitioning, rather than arriving.
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My card took a bruising today, just bought the OM-D body, Panny 20mm f1.7 and the rather luscious Oly 75mm f1.8.
16gb sd chucked in for a smile too so time to get busy.
I'll likely be putting all my Canon gear up here first so keep eyes peeled.
An intriguing discussion, I would be very interested to hear how you find the switch now you've got the new one. I've been thinking about a similar move to smaller camera rather than upgrading the body of my rather more basic a200.
Early days but so far I am genuinely smitten, I really am.
All my Canon dslr gear is up in the Classified section so head on over for first dibs before it gets eBayed.
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