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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    Now that's my kind of camera! Until I see the price.

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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    Well, each to his own I guess, but at that price, that holds absolutely no interest for me at all.

    And what's with this "no body only option" idea? You buy a camera at the best part of £3000, and they don't think that anyone wanting a 50mm 1.8 will already have one?

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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    I was thinking that Nikon have a lack of pancake primes. By this I mean they have some inarguably brilliant prime lenses, but not any that are thin.

    As it stands the Df isn't going to be that thin and light. It is priced however to go up ahead against the Leica, who do have a better ecosystem.

    I just can't see someone who has £3k to drop, not thinking ah hell, I'll have the Leica.
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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    I was thinking that Nikon have a lack of pancake primes. By this I mean they have some inarguably brilliant prime lenses, but not any that are thin.

    As it stands the Df isn't going to be that thin and light. It is priced however to go up ahead against the Leica, who do have a better ecosystem.

    I just can't see someone who has £3k to drop, not thinking ah hell, I'll have the Leica.
    Well .... I only skimmed the articles, but that uses a lot of the Nikon ecosystem.

    So, if you're planning on needing several lenses, but already have Nikon variants, the Leica will look a lot less appealing, and a LOT more expensive by the time you-ve added the lenses.

    If I were starting from cold, I might look at the Leica, but if I already had Nikon gear (which, as a Canon user, I don't) Leica wouldn't be an option.

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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    but that uses a lot of the Nikon ecosystem.
    Which is my point. You've got £3k to drop on one of these. Odds are you won't worry about recycling that £1k prime.

    Given that Nikon has a different market for it's lenses one where making it compact doesn't enter, in fact quite the opposite. If /r/Photography is anything to go by, people who consider themselves pro want a large looking camera.

    So why would someone who had a D800 buy one of these? I guess that is the question. I can't see anyone who is on say a D7100 buying one.
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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    Well, some 'pros' may want large cameras, but a lot are about the result, not the tool. If you're public-facing, then meeting public expectations might be an issue, but otherwise, it's a tool for a job.

    Micro 4/3 are gaining interest, because size and weight can be an issue, especially when lugging whole systems around. I can see where smaller cameras, and lenses, have an appeal, provided the image quality, and system versatility, is there.

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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    I guess I see this as being a strange 'Halo Product'. I don't think they intend to sell many. I think it is designed to provide reassurance that they are not being monolithic with their product offering.

    There are lots of people who think that full frame just somehow happens to be the perfect size for a digital sensor, whilst conveniently ignoring medium format etc. They are obviously wrong from an engineering standing point, and the classic give it ten years tests will be telling. However micro 4/3rds are gaining a lot of cred from people, last time I was at SRS a guy was selling all his kit and changing almost entirely, he was keeping his primes and one D800E, but he was getting rid of all his zooms and his D7000.

    Now a good way to make people not consider a competitors product, is by having your own offering in that 'category' which ticks the boxes but misses the point entirely. This is arguably how Coke stompped on Pepsi Clear, by using the Tab Clear brand to generate an almost negative association for the target demographic.

    To me I think the pricing of this is frankly insane, I don't see why someone would choose this over a D800/E, because with the lens lineup, it isn't going to be much more portable, it isn't as if it has just crossed some threshold.
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    Re: Nikon Df previews

    The thing is the compatability with pre-AI lenses is nice,but ultimately unless your a lens collector most people who would be still interested in them would not be spending £2500+ on a dSLR.

    If this was under £2000 it would be more interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    and the classic give it ten years tests will be telling
    It was Sony who made the cheapest 35MM frame cameras with the A850 and yet many did not want to buy one because it was a Sony.

    Even then it was a decent chunk over £1000,which the gearheads on forums don't seem to get is a metric **** ton of money for most people buying a SLR,and it has been the case for decades. Then the other aspect,is most lenses sold are for APS-C cameras as are most of the new lenses launched for many systems. Add the additional cost of new lenses to the equation and most people in reality will not care about 35MM frame.

    Plus the systems are bulkier too,and many of the 35MM frame lenses are old designs(at least with Nikon and Canon),which are beaten by modern zoom lenses in many metrics.

    Yet people still bang on how 35MM frame sensor SLRs are a reason to buy one brand over another.
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