Can we be careful with the content of this thread please. I'm watching it closely.
@Santa: It was intended to be an impassive observation of a possibility. I'd meant nothing one way or t'other with it. I wasn't suggesting (or trying to suggest) imperialistic motivations
I'd say that its more of a co-incidence of the current location of the strongest economy than anything else. As I see it, there's no sensible way anyone can realistically lend to the floundering nations without heavy caveats and a degree of control over their internal policies.
Governments are already controlled, to a fair degree, by those with the money - this is just writ large.
@Tig: By all means remove it and its successors if you think it'll derail, I'll not be offended. Why risk the thread for the sakes of an idle musing
Edit: You got the spam
As long as it's a lighthearted comment and it stays that way I have no issues... (could you edit your original post with a caveat so that anyone reading it KNOWS?! Please?)
The spam beat me to the thread... I'm sure it wasn't there when I was reviewing
I'll edit the content of #36 into it, easier
Edit: you know in retrospect, I should've worded it better. Ach well, done now.
Last edited by roachcoach; 15-12-2011 at 11:39 AM.
tiggerai (15-12-2011)
And now it seems the UK is being asked to pay €25 billion to bail out Europe, the second highest contribution of all the EU countries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...om-the-UK.html
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Been helped or just 'Like' a post? Use the Thanks button!
My broadband speed - 750 Meganibbles/minute
If he agrees to this demand then he is a gonner, surely no one would vote for him again, that would be if the tory party didn't internally tear him appart like a dog.
Can't wait to read the BBC saying how its "terrible" he didn't offer to pay 5Bn on top of what they asked....
throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)
Be interesting to see the Lib-dem take on it. Perhaps they will suddenly get realpolitik.
I think I shall be hanging on to the small stock of guilders, francs and other assorted currencies that I found during a clear out, might come in useful!
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Been helped or just 'Like' a post? Use the Thanks button!
My broadband speed - 750 Meganibbles/minute
Managed to miss this thread. Despite it being one of my big gripes. Aidan is spot on IMO.
There's no interest in actually fixing problems, the problems we're facing today with the Euro were clearly pointed out at it's inception by everyone without political capital to gain from it, or a pinch of common sense. The idea is flawed. Simple as that. To make it work, the European Union would need to become a sovereign power in it's own right, with the nations of Europe becoming the equivalent of the States in America. This seems to be accepted by all sides, those who oppose it say so openly, those who want it evidence it by their actions, the only problem being the people of Europe aren't remotely keen on the idea. Would anyone here vote yes on a referendum for such a system? I wouldn't.
Not even in the leading Euro nations like France and Germany, they don't want the Euro going under but they don't want to be ruled from Brussels either, but this is a mere inconvenience to Barroso, Rompuoy and cabal. They openly criticise the idea of asking the people what they want, degrading the very notion as 'populism'. It's called Democracy, and the people of Europe have proven time and again they will fight, kill and die to protect it if push comes to shove. If the democratic rights of the people are not respected it will come to war one day. Thankfully we're nowhere near that point yet but that is the road we are travelling down.
Luckily democracy still exists. Evidenced by the rise of Euro-sceptic parties in almost every member state. Even sweeping to power from practically nowhere in a couple of nations. Usually all with identical messages; Free trade; great, mutual defence; great, partnership and co-operation; great, but it's our country and we'll run it, thanks. Ultra-nationalism is something no-one wants, but neither is supra-nationalism.
On that point if UKIP can field good candidates and a decent manifesto in 2015 and things keep going the way they there I think they stand a decent chance of at the very least forcing a coalition with one of the major parties. Farage has certainly got the charisma and political savvy to pose a credible threat. His biggest hurdle currently seems to be funding, despite my love of democracy, money talks, but if the City of London and other big business feel sufficiently threatened, this is a problem that will evaporate overnight.
So who wants to do the honours of informing Europe we don't have 25bn?
Nigel Farage views on the recent events entertaining as usual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXTpS...601&feature=iv
Whatever you think of him, you can't deny he is brilliant to watch.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)