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    no i don't want gm potatoes, or ideed any gm food. No one knows the long term effects of eating genetically modified food, it may or may not eventually be proven safe but im sorry i don't want me or my family to effectively be guinea pigs in what is the largest experiment in history.
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    I'd happily eat GM food. I'll also support it, the main reason being that I find most of the hippies who are against it so offensively stupid that I want to offend them any way I can. As for well thought out and conveyed arguements against them, fair enough, but GM crops have been used for over 20 years in canada and the US and they're not having big issues with sooper dooper weeds.

    Frankly though, I don't care very much. I avoid organic food since it's unsustainable for the environment and selfish in that respect, but other then that, I can't really be bothered buying food selectively

    no i don't want gm potatoes, or ideed any gm food. No one knows the long term effects of eating genetically modified food, it may or may not eventually be proven safe
    Except for the 320M North Americans who've been eating it for 20 years, yeah, the long term effects are totaly untested. The main problem with GM crops is peoples stupidity and fear, and lack of understanding of the science involved, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specofdust
    I'd happily eat GM food. I'll also support it, the main reason being that I find most of the hippies who are against it so offensively stupid that I want to offend them any way I can. As for well thought out and conveyed arguements against them, fair enough, but GM crops have been used for over 20 years in canada and the US and they're not having big issues with sooper dooper weeds.

    Frankly though, I don't care very much. I avoid organic food since it's unsustainable for the environment and selfish in that respect, but other then that, I can't really be bothered buying food selectively

    Except for the 320M North Americans who've been eating it for 20 years, yeah, the long term effects are totaly untested. The main problem with GM crops is peoples stupidity and fear, and lack of understanding of the science involved, imo.

    Your ignorance is frightening. Both the US and Canada as well as Argentina are having serious problems with superweeds. Farmers there are having to use stronger, powerful and far more environmentally damaging weedkiller to kill these weeds. Do a bit of research first...

    Your second piece of ignorance is stating that organic food is unstustainable. Ermmm.... what? How on earth did you come up with that? Organic food is simply planted and grown without any weedkillers or chemicals. How is that unsustainable?

    I'll let you off with the one about the US testing GM foods for us. God bless America!
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    To answer the original question. I have no worries eating GM foods.
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    its very very very unlikely that eating gm foods will be dangerous as the media often attempt to portray, except for the possibility of mild doses of poisonous compounds that are produced by all the toying with the plants metabolism... but that kind of thing is easy to spot and should be predictable, even if it isnt we have toxic material entering our food now and then through human error and its no big deal in the grand scheme of things

    any problems will most likely be gene transfer to bacteria and genome instability, the latter also being unimportant except for the farmers who buy the crop, the former being something which we know nothing about and cant possibly predict

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    myself i'd never eat a GM potato, or give a child the combined MMR jab, or eat something that wasn't advertised as been full of natural ingredients.

    Excuse me now as i go off to take my birth control pill. Before eating some carrots that have been farmed in a very un-environmently friendly way (espesually for the water system) but are clearly called organic.


    seriously, my understanding of spud's is that they can't cross polinate.

    When people talk about crops x polinating, then look at things like Rape Seed. How far away from a crop for human consumpation do you have to grow the posiones rape seed? Right.

    Whilst its a bit suck it and see as to what the crops perform like large scale, its hardly something to be scared off, as long as we do preserve the genetic information in the crops they replace, myself i don't wish to loose diversity, but do like having a good constant quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus
    seriously, my understanding of spud's is that they can't cross polinate.

    When people talk about crops x polinating, then look at things like Rape Seed. How far away from a crop for human consumpation do you have to grow the posiones rape seed? Right.
    why not? and how far do you have to grow it? the issue isnt human consumption, its horizontal gene transfer which you havent really addressed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecube
    Your ignorance is frightening. Both the US and Canada as well as Argentina are having serious problems with superweeds. Farmers there are having to use stronger, powerful and far more environmentally damaging weedkiller to kill these weeds. Do a bit of research first...
    I have - The so called superweeds the US is having trouble with are the same plants they modified. Unwanted sunflowers are classed as a weed in the US, but the farmers who bought the modified seeds wanted stronger more ressiliant sunflowers. But never mind, just keep ranting, I'm sure millions of hippies across the world will listen.

    Your second piece of ignorance is stating that organic food is unstustainable. Ermmm.... what? How on earth did you come up with that? Organic food is simply planted and grown without any weedkillers or chemicals. How is that unsustainable?
    There are 6 billion people on the planet, we currently have the capcity to produce the quantity of food we produce due to intensive farming techniques with high yields. Organic farming is low yield, requiring about four times more land per tonne of food harvested. Organic farming therefore requires a gigantic increase in the area of land farmed in order to produce much food. This is why the food is so much more expensive. As for it being grown without any chemicals, well now who's showing their ignorance? What d'you think water is? Anyway, even the idea that organic farming is done without weedkillers is a fantasty, I live in the middle of many farms and trust me, the organic farmers can use weedkillers too. They can't use high strength wide band weedkillers as much, but they're still allowed to use certain quanities of narrow band weedkillers.

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    naa i dont think i would buy GM potatos, unless they were tescos or another big supermarket

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweatman
    naa i dont think i would buy GM potatos, unless they were tescos or another big supermarket
    Why not?;

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    Since when have General Motors been making potatos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badass
    Why is something that is natural inherently better?
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    There you go.
    If you see that quoted statement as me suggesting man made items are inherently better than natural ones, then I cant be arsed to discuss this with you. That question was a response to you siggesting natural things are better than man made ones.
    If you cant be bothered to argue properly, then dont bother arguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badass
    If you see that quoted statement as me suggesting man made items are inherently better than natural ones, then I cant be arsed to discuss this with you. That question was a response to you siggesting natural things are better than man made ones.
    If you cant be bothered to argue properly, then dont bother arguing.
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    Organic is the way to go

    Probably not. I try to stick with organic as much as possible.

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