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That lian li will put £65 on the total cost. Looks like we already found the most suitable case for the price.
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You'll want 2 sticks of RAM to run in dual channel mode, or you're going to kill the graphics performance. I looked at single channel v. dual channel memory in my A6-3670k review - the performance difference in games between 2x 2GB and 1x 4GB was 20% - 30%. The A10-5700 has an even faster GPU, so it gets even more bandwidth starved, which means you'll see even more improvement, just by using 2 sticks of memory instead of one.
Ideally, you want dual channel 1866+:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/c...dt1tx0ceu.html - 2x 4GB normal profile kit £45
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/c...e1tx0ceu..html - 2x 4GB high profile heatsinks £41
But a dual channel 1600MHz kit would be better than one stick:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/c...ds1s00ceu.html - 2x 2GB normal profile £23
Unfortunately 4GB kits of 1866+ memory are in short supply and cost almost as much as 8GB kits...
The faster the memory you put in the build, the better the graphics will perform. The hexus lads did a great Trinity memory scaling review which you really should read - even going from 1600MHz to 1866MHz can yield 5% - 10% performance increase. One stick of 1600MHz RAM is going to kill the benefit of using a trinity APU...
Last edited by scaryjim; 28-02-2013 at 04:18 PM.
Ciber (28-02-2013)
I would spend the splash extra and go for these:
http://www.ebuyer.com/412028-kingsto...hx24c11t3k2-8x
If you're looking at spending that kind of money.
Hexus has problems getting their 5700 to run memory at 2133MHz, let alone 2400MHz. Don't know if that's a limitation of the 5700 inherently (I believe 1866 is the fastest officially supported memory) or just their sample/motherboard. With a 5800k I'd be right with you, but with a 5700 I think you may as well save the cash and go with 1866, tbh...
Ciber (28-02-2013)
Ah yes I forgot about the GPU using the main RAM! Good point and 8gb is a good idea then. Is the Zalman PSU OK? I couldn't find out with a bit of googling who actually makes it.
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Last edited by Ciber; 28-02-2013 at 04:44 PM.
Get the XFX 450W PSU. It is a better PSU than the Zalman. It is not only shorter but uses better quality capacitors and a ball bearing fan. These are of more importance in SFF PC.
CAT knows a lot more about PSUs than I do, have to bow to his greater knowledge on that oneotherwise it looks like a really nice build
The ballistix tactical is decent RAM, I've got 8GB of the very low profile stuff (which no longer seems to be available?) in my SFF gaming PC...
I'm the girlfriend in question and I've not got the foggiest what most of this is about other than that price plus a few other considerations are foremost but, whatever "him indoors" says, gaming *isn't*!!! ;-P
Where are you ordering from? The Seagate hard drive is cheaper (with free postage) at EBuyer at the moment:
http://www.ebuyer.com/319639-seagate...ve-st1000dm003
Knocks £8 off the build price for trippedup!
Not that I'm ungrateful - just confused!!!!
Yes I will bow to the greater knowledge on those and get the XFX PSU. I was just hoping to save a few quid and hoping the Zalman would be good quality.CAT knows a lot more about PSUs than I do, have to bow to his greater knowledge on that one
The ballistix tactical is decent RAM, I've got 8GB of the very low profile stuff (which no longer seems to be available?
You know more than you let on!
Once I have a shopping list/build list I will shop around!
That's good! I like the shopping around bit myself - can knock a good few pounds off.
If you're ready to buy the case it's on Scan's "Today Only" for just under £29 - looks a bargain.
Ciber (28-02-2013)
Waiting for the go ahead!
Which he has now got and I await the result of everybody's comments! Thank you, one and all and if anybody spots any good deals, please can he/she let Ciber know - for the sake of saving money!
Have you seen in one of these cases Cat? I have never bothered with modular PSU before, but I just couldn't see where to tie all the cables with my Corsair and very quickly gave up. With a modular PSU it is nice & tidy with good airflow now.
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