4 years out of the game - Rate my budget gaming build?
(Choice of username when i first signed up was poor at best...)
Before heading off to uni 3 years ago I sold up my gaming rig and got myself a laptop for easy porting around. Now going into my 4th year i've got plenty of room in the new house and find myself working at home 90% of the time anyway, so its time to build myself a new gaming PC!
I've got about £900-£1k to play with (if i can make it through the rest of this term living on the cheap!) excluding monitor or OS.
This is what i've come up with thus far. Not sure what will happen with Devil's Canyon in June as that may change my CPU choice.
Aiming for as quiet as possible with air cooling, though as i'm also trying to colour coordinate i've opted out of a Noctua Dh-15 even though that would be lovely.
Any feedback/recommendations would be great.
http://gyazo.com/3efa7025da1dab24e65008fee2003582
http://gyazo.com/3efa7025da1dab24e65008fee2003582
Re: 4 years out of the game - Rate my budget gaming build?
Looks good The only things I would change are the 120 gig ssd to s 240 gig one as you will be surprised how quick a 120 fills up.
Would also switch the PSU to this one
Hexus gave it raved reviews
Otherwise it will be a nice rig.
Re: 4 years out of the game - Rate my budget gaming build?
I think I can give you a load more POWAH.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3LDV6
Re: 4 years out of the game - Rate my budget gaming build?
I will probably aim for a better graphics card if possible,or an R9 280X over a GTX770.
Also,do you really want to overclock?? If so the Haswell overclocking refresh will be soon released and should be a better bet.
TBH,if I were you I would get a Xeon E3 1230 V3 and a cheaper motherboard and put the money from overclocking the CPU into a better graphics card,and a larger SSD.
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I will probably aim for a better graphics card if possible,or an R9 280X over a GTX770.
Also,do you really want to overclock?? If so the Haswell overclocking refresh will be soon released and should be a better bet.
TBH,if I were you I would get a Xeon E3 1230 V3 and a cheaper motherboard and put the money from overclocking the CPU into a better graphics card,and a larger SSD.
Noted about the SSD, will save a bit more.
Definitely going to overclock, always seemed silly not to get the best out of what you have (had my E8400 running at a relatively modest 4ghz in my last build). Consider the 4670k a bit of a placeholder; if the haswell refresh coming isn't absurdly priced I will pick one of those up - I wont be buying until end of june/july anyway.
I've a bit of a thing for wanting the latest thing where possible (for instance, I want the z97 chipset just because....\'future proof\' i guess, as I will probably won\'t switch from 1150 for at least a few years. I could drop down to the Gaming 5 realistically.
As for graphics card, I am an incredibly stubborn Nvidia fanboy and would never run an AMD card.
Unfortunately, the step up between a GTX 770 and GTX 780 hikes a fair bit, but I suppose as you say and I\'m a bit more savvy with some of my parts, I could switch the distribution of my funds to pick up a 780. More likely is i\'ll save a tiny bit extra though. Somehow i\'ve never even heard of the Xeon cpus.
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Definitely going to overclock, always seemed silly not to get the best out of what you have (had my E8400 running at a relatively modest 4ghz in my last build). Consider the 4670k a bit of a placeholder; if the haswell refresh coming isn't absurdly priced I will pick one of those up - I wont be buying until end of june/july anyway.
Then the new refresh will be definitelly for you, the price of the new CPUs should be the same as the current ones and the current CPU prices will drop ("Haswell" Refresh).
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I've a bit of a thing for wanting the latest thing where possible (for instance, I want the z97 chipset just because....'future proof' i guess, as I will probably won't switch from 1150 for at least a few years. I could drop down to the Gaming 5 realistically.
Fair enough, the new chipset will have some improvements (like a M.2 slot for things like Samsung XP941 M.2 SSD), so future proofing is a valid excuse to wait.
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As for graphics card, I am an incredibly stubborn Nvidia fanboy and would never run an AMD card.
Unfortunately, the step up between a GTX 770 and GTX 780 hikes a fair bit, but I suppose as you say and I'm a bit more savvy with some of my parts, I could switch the distribution of my funds to pick up a 780. More likely is i'll save a tiny bit extra though. Somehow i've never even heard of the Xeon cpus.
Xeon CPUs are more for the professional circles, unlike the consumer market of everyday users. In the old days the Xeons tend to be compatible with server MoBos and sockets only but that changed since (maybe because the quality and stability of non-server MoBos improved that much...? ). If you are going to overclocking, a Xeon is not for you(even if the performance would be more that enough for most uses).
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Noted about the SSD, will save a bit more.
Definitely going to overclock, always seemed silly not to get the best out of what you have (had my E8400 running at a relatively modest 4ghz in my last build). Consider the 4670k a bit of a placeholder; if the haswell refresh coming isn't absurdly priced I will pick one of those up - I wont be buying until end of june/july anyway.
I've a bit of a thing for wanting the latest thing where possible (for instance, I want the z97 chipset just because....'future proof' i guess, as I will probably won't switch from 1150 for at least a few years. I could drop down to the Gaming 5 realistically.
The problem is unlike in the days of the E8400,overclocking has become more of a way to charge more.
I give you an example looking at your build:
1.)£140 motherboard
2.)£170 Core i5
3.)£65 cooler
Total= £375
Yet a Xeon E3 1230 V3 and a more basic ATX motherboard will come to around £250 to £260.
Even if you take overclocking into consideration,you are not going to get a 45% performance boost from overclocking even though you are paying 45% more.
Unlike with the E8400,the newer CPUs have Turbo and Haswell is quite agressive with regards to Turbo.
A Core i5 4670K turbos upto 3.8GHZ and the Xeon E3 1230 V3 upto 3.7GHZ,so even if you overclock the Core i5 4670K,you will be lucky to even see a 20% to 30% performace improvement.
Plus the Xeon has HT,meaning in games like Crysis3 you see some huge improvements,negating the clockspeed advantage of an overclocked Core i5 4670K.
The money saved can be put into a better graphics card. £110 will mean you can get a GTX780.
For the vast majority of games a Xeon E3 1230 V3 and a GTX780 will be faster than an overclocked Core i5 4670K and a GTX770.
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Unlike with the E8400,the newer CPUs have Turbo and Haswell is quite agressive with regards to Turbo.
A Core i5 4670K turbos upto 3.8GHZ and the Xeon E3 1230 V3 upto 3.7GHZ,so even if you overclock the Core i5 4670K,you will be lucky to even see a 20% to 30% performace improvement.
Plus with a right MoBo (the cost difference between a specific one and a regular one is around £5-10) you can attempt Turbo overclock when instead of one core reaching max Turbo frequency under load, all cores reach max turbo frequency under load reducing the overclocking performance gain even further. (Soon I will have a build with mobo capable of turbo overclock, will do some tests on both a SB chip i5-2400 and an IB chip i5-3470 if anybody is interested).
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Pretty sure intel removed turbo overclocking, at least from the lower end chipsets.
Not sure about the Z boards
One thing is that vey few games come close to being cpu bottle necked, crysis3 is the exception to the rule not the rule, as with the original crysis it chews through as many threads and as much cpu speed as you can throw at it, look at something like battlefield 4 and the situation changes, overclocking give very limited benefit.
http://www.techbuyersguru.com/ochtgaming2.php
One thing I'll note is that the old FSB overclocking seemed to give a far more noticeable performance bump, in general use not just in games, than the simple cpu multiplier overclocking that intel is restricted to now.
Overall the need and benefit from overclocking is dieing out, I also don't like they way intel is now restricting overclocking to push higher end parts, but this is what we get when they control a de-facto monopoly on the chipset.
