cooler and PSU for Ryzen build

[ik9000]

just about to get new system. need help with PSU and CPU cooler:

have picked up 2nd hand case on ebay
have old graphics card (GTX460) sitting on the shelf for now. I know its old but have limited funds at the moment
have got DDR4 RAM already. Wasn't cheap compared to my last build!
have storage SSD (can't afford NVMe right now)

Will get :
MSI ACE x570 mobo - seems good for the next few years, and next iteration of ryzen processors should still be AM4. Expensive though, most of the money is going there.
Some PCIe to SATA cards to handle the HDD, SSD, docks and optical drives I need
To keep cost down I'm thinking I'll get either R5-3600 or R5-3600x then get 3900x or better next year when have more funds (and actually in stock at reliable sellers). I'm minded to go 3600 and just put money into a better cooler.

So, what cooler for R5-3600 (and 3900 or better in due course)? My case is not really geared up for radiators beyond 1 fan square ones but will check when it arrives.

What PSU?

Both must be as silent as possible and low noise, EMI, ERF etc.

[PC-LAD]

IMO just get the 3600, Ive had mine on 4.3ghz 1.29v for a good while. You could save 100+ going for a previous gen board for less then 5% deficit. Im using a Cryorig H7 and a graphite pad i get 46 degrees max in gaming, 50 in synthetics. Scan usualy have some nice silent 550w seasonics on offer but my noctua 120s are louder than my 650g+. My fan is hardly active as its 320w peak load. System noise is max 28db with all fan profiles at 1100rpm

[Phage]

It all rather depends on budget...
I find Corsair AIO coolers very good, and for the PSU, any of the quality brands Seasonic, etc

[ik9000]

Well let's say no budget constraints what is the best? Then if that is crazy what is a good mid-range and then what if it's a shoestring but can do £40-50 (the difference from the 3600x). I have a spare akasa apache fan that I can throw onto it so it is just the cooler rather than cooler and fans (unless they all come as one).

[DanceswithUnix]

I'm still using the AMD cooler that came with the 3700X. I have a Freezer 34 Esports which seemed to get good reviews and was a decent price, but have yet to be annoyed enough with factory cooling to replace it. Perhaps if my PC was on the desktop rather than on the floor the occasional whirring up of fans would annoy me more, but these 65W cpus are really not hard to cool.

Edit: My X470-Pro board has 6 SATA ports which I thought was fairly typical, how many devices are you connecting that you need add on cards??

[Zak33]

The best coolers in the world are air coolers by Noctua
Second choice can safely be bequiet! Dark Rock 4 , and the Pro is a thing of cool power.

(I'm not into AIO as they finally fail. Pumps stop, fluid finally leak. sad fact)

If you can buy afford a Noctua do - they have a reputation akin to the finest quality brands in any arena. They offer, for free, upgrade fitting kits in future for new sockets. And that's no joke.
https://noctua.at/en/support/mounting-and-upgrade-kits

Buy a big Noctua now and you will be using it on a new chip in 8 or 9 years time.
they have holes cut in the right places and long specially made screw drivers included in the box to poke through the fins... nothing beats them. But they are dough.

[Jonj1611]

I have a Dark Rock Pro 4 for my Ryzen 7 and its incredibly quiet and keeps the chip nice and cool too.

[MLyons]

If you can afford Noctua then go Noctua.
If you can't afford Noctua then sell something and go Noctua.
They are the only company I don't question any engineering decision on. Any other brand myself and Zak will say "hmm, not sure they should have done that." With Noctua we simply go "Interesting, They clearly know something we don't.". They're also one of the only companies we work with who give us straight answers and I genuinely believe any marketing material they come out with.

[Zak33]

If you can afford Noctua then go Noctua.
If you can't afford Noctua then sell something and go Noctua.
They are the only company I don't question any engineering decision on. Any other brand myself and Zak will say "hmm, not sure they should have done that." With Noctua we simply go "Interesting, They clearly know something we don't.". They're also one of the only companies we work with who give us straight answers and I genuinely believe any marketing material they come out with.

when he says that.. it's heart felt and genuine.

and their fans..... every single thing on a Noctua fan has a job and if it's there, it's cos they know something we don't

[ik9000]

Edit: My X470-Pro board has 6 SATA ports which I thought was fairly typical, how many devices are you connecting that you need add on cards??

the ACE only has 4 SATA ports. I currently use 8 on my current machine and could do a few more for a front access dock. In time hopefully more will transition to NVMe but that expense is beyond me for now.

[ik9000]

interesting comments above re noctua. when I last looked into cooling (a long long time ago) the airflow and static pressure were both better for the Akasa Apache fans which were also cheaper than the alternative Noctua offerings. Having run them for years I'm happy with them. It gave me the opinion that noctua were perhaps a pricey option for good, but not necessarily best, performance.

[ik9000]

Just got a 2nd hand case for a lot less than I thought I was going to have to spend new, so money for cooler is not as tight as I feared. Checking out those noctua ones now. Turns out the case has space for 3x120mm fans in the top if I take out the 230mm fans so it could take a large multi-fan radiator, but I'm worried about removing/reducing the wider case airflow. What do you think good idea or no? Case is one of these

[Xlucine]

With a 360mm rad on the CPU the GPU is the only thing that really needs airflow, and a 23 cm inlet fan pointed at the GPU is more than most cases offer.

I think a 360mm radiator on a 3600 is well past the point of diminishing returns, and you'll get fair more bang for your buck with a cheap air cooler and putting the rest of the funds towards the next GPU (you could probably get a 570 and a decent air cooler for the same price as at 360mm AIO, and it would run rings around it). I'd also recommend trying the stock cooler, the wraith stealth (lesser cooler than the wraith spire) that came with my R3 1200 was decently quiet

[PC-LAD]

Any Progress @ik9000?

[ik9000]

Any Progress @ik9000?

I have flitted around and am bashing my head against the wall of indecision. I've twice loaded up the basket only to hesitate.

Even choices I thought were made I'm now doubting. Should I cough up and get the Aorus Master which on paper is more versatile, but yet people say the MSI board gets a better RAM overclock and it's cheaper, albeit 2 fewer sata ports.

Cooler wise the noctua DH15s sounds good, but looking at the stats the Akasa apache is still a superior fan and it annoys me you can't just buy the cooler without their fans bundled in.

I'm now reading up on PSUs which is as tedious now as it ever was before trying to find something quiet across the board, and not silly db above 75%

[Jonj1611]

I have an EVGA Supernova G2 PSU and its silent, has an eco switch which turns the fan off unless temps get over a certain value, I don't think it's ever come on and if it has I have never heard it.