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    First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    Good evening all,
    Hope everyone well. It's been a long time since I posted here, and longer since I built a PC.
    I'm currently running a Q6600 @ 2.33ghz with 8gig, windows 10 Home and a....
    um...
    actually, I can't remember what my mobo is. Hey ho. GPU is a GTX 660. Sandisk SSD HII 480G for storage.
    Power is a Corsair HX620W modular, which was pretty whizzy back in the day.

    Usage:
    Light gaming (nothing too recent: HL2, Destiny 2, Dawn of War 1 and 2. I'm mainly console now, so I don't need super whizzy graphics).
    Office usage: Macro and formula heavy spreadsheets, lots of R.

    I love my Q6600, but it's starting to struggle with the data sets I have to work with.

    Budget is pretty tight. What I've specced out so far is:

    CPU: Ryzen 5 3600:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...=AFXON1SGSPLH4

    Mobo: AsRock B450m Pro4-f:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...A2AQP0ZOWQKJQ2

    Ram: Corsair Vengeance 2 x 8gb DDR4 3200
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

    Case: CIT Dark Star
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

    Cooler:cooler master Hyper 212 EVO
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...KL5A1OLE&psc=1

    GPU: Will keep the one I have. it works fine for the games I have

    SSD: Will keep the good Samsung I have, rahter than splash out on M2 SSD

    PSU: Will keep the Corsair

    Mad overclocking is not important to me. I'll probably keep the Ryzen at stock if it's as much of a leap as my research is saying.
    I'm aware that may have to activate XRP to get the most out of the RAM. The whole new bios environment will be something I have to look into.
    Any thoughts, please?
    Have I missed anything? With two kids it is, frankly, a lot of money to spend and I don't want to mess it up.
    Will sell the Q6600 for parts, which might recover... what... a tenner?
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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    Looks completely fine to me.
    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    Gotta be honest: it's quite exciting to even be LOOKING at this stuff again.
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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    Build looks good but if you've got the Q6600 at stock maybe try and eek some more life out of it and crank it up? Most are good for about 3.4-3.6GHz IIRC.
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    Stock cooler will do the job,or get a Wraith Spire for a few quid. I would get this RAM kit instead:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/29...-Grey/RAM4284/

    Cheaper to buy the Ryzen 5 3600 here:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Ryzen...EAAOSwAH1dZUrl

    I would get a new PSU too - the HX620W is ancient,and some of the newer PSUs support the enhanced low power states of modern CPUs. Sometime like this might be a good starting point:
    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/500w...4aArexEALw_wcB

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    CPU is retail so will come with a cooler.
    Case, why swap?

    Keep an eye on ordering bits from different places, you ned up paying more in postage than you save from buying elsewhere quite often..

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    I looked around,ordering the RAM and motherboard from CCL Computers will be cheaper than buying from Amazon. Also it appears the PSU is the same price as Scan too:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/29...bWmywx7ZSmuC9Q
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/27...board/MBD2634/
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/29...-Unit/PSU1719/

    The semi-modular version of the Seasonic costs £5 more:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/29...-Unit/PSU1721/

    The Ryzen 5 3600 is not in stock from Amazon but getting it from the Currys Ebay store makes it less than £150 due to the code.

    Also,the motherboard has several BIOS revisions - the earlier ones don't support the Ryzen 5 3600 natively:
    https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M%20Pro4-F/#BIOS

    TBH,by now I expect most of the motherboards shipped should have later BIOS revisions,but just check with CCL Computers to make sure.

    Edit!!

    The revision 2 Wraith Spire which has the better fan(but no copper core),can be had for under £8:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-AM4-W...YAAOSw4aRdbtJc

    Think of it as an extended Wraith Stealth cooler,with a taller heatsink.

    I compared the Wraith Stealth and the revision 1 Wraith Spire coolers on my Ryzen 5 2600,and temperatures and noise were much better on the latter. I paid less than £10 for the latter,so I am pleased with the performance!

    Second Edit!!

    Cashback too:
    https://www.topcashback.co.uk/ccl-computers-ltd/
    https://www.quidco.com/ccl-computers...c71d9d4bb4aed2
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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    PCpartpicker is very good for comparing parts and prices.

    1600 AF should be £85ish; basically a slightly gimped 2600.

    Shame you didn't buy ram three months ago

    Amazon whorehouse has some ram for £60; it not bad, no idea what a physical impefection is :/ warranty is less too. they generally come and go all the time.

    Do products sold on Amazon Warehouse come with a manufacturer's warranty? No. Used products generally do not come with a manufacturer's warranty but all of our items are backed by Amazon's standard 30-day return policy, and a 90-day return policy for Renewed items.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-li...&condition=all

    Mesh front panel cases are the rage atm.

    Can you reuse your cooler?

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    I was going to suggest the 1600AF, but they're over £100 now, which is a bit rude..
    RAM, I was all over that deal, not that I've noticed 32Gb doing much..

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    I just bought a 3600 from Amazon, and didn't get an AMD promo code so I presume they have run out. In case that matters to you (my son would have liked a free Xbox pass I'm sure).

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    1600 is £93 at ccl. It says AE but I'm sure if you ask they will say its an AF as they only had the AF a few months ago and AMD stopped making AE parts before that.

    Falling exchange rate and production slow down doesn't help.

    Had a look on eBay; not much new but found a listing from the Russian federation:-

    I sell ryzen 1600

    Moderately amusing if you read it in your worst Russian accent.

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    The Ryzen 5 1600AF is great value but for under £150 the Ryzen 5 3600 is excellent value especially if the OP keeps their systems for a very long time - sadly its now out of stock there too.

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    CEX has the Ryzen 7 3700x for £250, I could sell my 1600AF for £60 and buy that with the £193 vouchers I have

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    Re: First new build in about a decade? So out of touch

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    CEX has the Ryzen 7 3700x for £250, I could sell my 1600AF for £60 and buy that with the £193 vouchers I have
    £20 less than Amazon? I never really understood CEX.

    Ryzen stock seems to be drying up and the price going up with it. 3600 is a stonking chip, but right now if you have a heavily threaded workload a 2700X might be better value.

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    Yeah, but what else am I going to do with £193 worth of CEX vouchers, everything is buggered up pricewise..

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