AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition

[teachmech]

Hi saw a review of this cpu AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition on Tom's Hardware will you have stock of these?

Thanks
teachmech

[staffsMike]

This one has my interest to

[sawyen]

yep.. me 2

[Bleek]

Shame it's only 2x512k L2.

The 5200+ (Brisbane) has 2x1MB L2 but I simply cannot find it for sale!

[DavidM]

Due Tuesday apparently.

[Bleek]

Good news! Keep us AMD die hards posted.

[vimes]

Good news! Keep us AMD die hards posted.

They will need to only get two or three in then

[rabbid]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Athlon...iew-29679.html

PCMark05 Comparisons
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Athlon...-29679-27.html

As a real world comparison my PC05 overall is 6744. CPU 7143, mem 6127, vga 6904, hdd 4905.
XFX650U.E2160.1800at2800-1.325v.GEIL2048DC.800-1.8vat700.4-4-4-12-16-1T.Bus200at1400.GF7600GT-OC640-1600.ST300GB-sata7200.10. Kicking it on a budget

BTW I am not trying to put down AMD, I have great respect of their A64 series and the push in development it has brought about, just at the moment Intel has the upper hand. It will be nice to see AMD bounce back.
I hope AMD put a nice custom sticker with this Black edition as good as the box looks!

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=658341
This Akasa 876 fan might work well with it, it got a good Frosty review. Its the same design as the Intel 965 version which I have here, runs cool runs quiet.

[staffsMike]

I think this will be the chip for my low budget build for my gf. Going to get a scythe mini ninja to.. just because it looks so funky

i've never overclocked on AMD.. can you do it very well on uATX boards?

[vimes]

It would be great when boards similar to these are released for the AMD chips.....

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/10...s_rd790_board/

looking to build a system from scratch the Black edition of the AMD 5000 is really enticing but for the poor choice, imo, of motherboards compared to the Intel P35 and x38 chipset offerings.

[Bleek]

I wouldn't be buying a black edition to keep it stock, I'd be aiming for 3.4GHz to be honest and in the price range that's a lot of bang for the money.

[rabbid]

Staffs, With most of the lower price mATX boards you cannot get much if any overclock.

I have had nForce Foxconns that have decent overclock (25%+) and they are quite cheap.
The Abit AN-M2 nf630a board is advertised overclockable.
Checkout one you like and ask here or get the manuals and see what options are listed.

vimes, what sort of budget/features are you looking at?

[vimes]

@rabbid

I have just built a system up and looked at what both AMD and Intel could offer me. I was influenced by the value and specifications of the P35 chipset boards on the market. The AMD counterparts look decidely sparse in comparison.
The AMD 5000 black edition seems to be a very good CPU for both price and performance but I would not want to buy any of the current AMD boards on the market due to the points noted above.

At least when the 790FX chipset boards hit the market they will be Phenom compatible with other add-ons similar to that of the Intel counterparts.

I did read, but lost the link, that Gigabyte are intending to offer something similar to the MSI board .......


http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-36...790FX-Dq6.html

found the link again

[rabbid]

Yes AMD used to have a fuller range of boards available, now it seems more limited to budget offerings or boards with quirky layouts and power connectors halfway across in the middle of the board.
I bought my 965-DS3 as I needed a narrower board for a narrower case but with decent features. The XFX650U board replaced some old Athlon XP full ATX.
I went Intel this time as you cannot refute the sheer power and simple overclocking of the C2D range (a la AMD A64 in its day). Originally my XFX had a Celeron 420 and overclocked to 2.8 again it was faster than any A64 single core, people maybe arent aware of this superb budget cpu with a half capable board. But £18 or so more buys you dual core E2140... We have never had it so good eh?

Bleek, its a lot of AMD bang for the buck but as I showed with the benchmark results, the E2160 was £20+ cheaper, the board similar price to basic AMD overclockable options and yet its higher bang for less buck! Doesnt have the sleek black box tho, which is rather nice.

[vimes]

Well I bought the 2180 as I thought that the 10x multiplier might be useful. What I do like about these £50 CPU's is the almost guarantee that they will hit 3Ghz with little difficulty.

Buying 4x1GB of Geil 6400 DDR2 for less than £80 was a good buy also.

I suppose it is about supply and demand and whilst at one time most of the retailers had a stack of 754 / 939 boards to choose from these days it seems to have swung over in Intel's favour. I really do hope that AMD have better luck soon, but I do think that the lack lustre boards on the market at the moment needs to be addressed.

Buying my Gigabyte P35 board from Scan for around £70 amazes me with its 8 USB ports on the back I/O etc etc etc....

[teachmech]

This will be the last gasp for my AM2 system before an upgrade to a quad core and vista but for another couple 12 months this at 3.2/3.4 should do me fine.

ie a cheap easy upgrade to a current complete system. Not a new build.