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About LinkBacksRead more.Earlier this month we ran a poll asking "A year after launch - How much would you pay to Upgrade from Vista to XP?" Having collected over a thousand votes, we've got some interesting results to reveal.
Read more.Earlier this month we ran a poll asking "A year after launch - How much would you pay to Upgrade from Vista to XP?" Having collected over a thousand votes, we've got some interesting results to reveal.
You need to change the headline, it's misleading.
You do not show that "HEXUS users would pay to upgrade from Vista to XP", you show that most don't care, and then those that have Vista, most are happy.
Changing the title to a question by moving the 'would' to the beginning, or prefixing the whole thing with 'Some' would work fine.
I have to agree - 52% state that they haven't used it (or that's my interpretation) so as far as I'm concerned aren't really in a position to comment other than based on the FUD that's doing the rounds. 64.6% of the remaining poll sample state that they're happy (Vista Rocks), a further 16.7% claim that they're generally satisifed (Vista ain't that bad), 6.25% are annoyed at UAC (which I'd argue is something that Windows has needed for a long time if it's to shake it's shoddy "everything as superuser" security model) and a further 16.7% are statiing that they'd prefer another OS. That's as tabloid a headline as I'd expect on Daily Mail Island, and really not the kind of journalistic work I expect of Hexus.
True. A more accurate headline would be 'A minority of Hexus users would pay to upgrade from Vista to XP'.. looks different doesn't it?
Don't want to put a downer on it, but I, also have highlight the fact that all but one of the answers are negatives....Originally Posted by Splash
* Nothing - Vista Rocks! - Positive
* £25 Vista ain't that bad... - The question is neutral, but given that you would still like to be paid to get rid of it, then it has to be a negative response
* £50 UAC is driving me insane.... - Negative
* £100 - Get me off Vista now! - Negative
* I'm not silly enough to have run it first time round... - Negative.
The way I look at it the overall poll is biased against Vista. Of the possible 5 answers, 2 should be positive, 1 should be neutral and 2 should be negative, not 4 negative, 1 positive - its skewed.
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I do agree Silent Shark, in hindsight the title was misleading and has been altered.
As Splash has highlighted, the current poll results can be interpreted in a number of ways. I wouldn't personally look at the numbers quite as Splash has done so. I see it as 52% wouldn't go near Vista, 31% really like it, 17% can't stand it.
With those figures in mind, they can be looked at in all sorts of ways.
I personally voted in the "Vista rocks" category and use Vista on both my desktop and laptop. I just found it interesting that the poll highlighted how many users on a tech site don't want to use Vista and though it was a smaller percentage, I found it interesting that nearly 200 people would pay to lose Vista.
*update* Dorza, I didn't set the poll options originally so can't comment on that. The answers could have provided better options, but I still found the results interesting to follow.
That 53% for those who use XP includes both those who have not tried, will not try, or simply not yet planning to try Vista. So yes, the real numbers are not as bad as a casual glance might indicate.
But the numbers do seem to generally point at a general trend of slow uptake of the new OS. This has security implications, delays the roll-out of new features, and reduces the likelyhood of DX10 development.
- Nearly one third of voters really like Vista....
- Only 17% choose the answers that suggest they have used it and not exactly been impressed.
- Over half of the people who voted seem to suggest they have never actually used Vista properly.
The poll is biased against Vista. I'm far from being a MS fanboy, but most of this dislike shown by the results is based on rumour or second-hand information or impressions formed by early releases. Of the people who indicated they have actually used the OS, only a very small percentage actually chose the most negative option.
I just like how cosy we've all become with Windows XP. The XP horror show that was pre-SP1 was far and away worse, and for much the same reasons - some niggly OS issues highlighted by lazy developers.
I can see how you reach that, but as one of the 52% that said that, it wasn't what I meant. The problem is that poll results often don't reflect your exact situation, so you pick the closest option. In my case, that was 'I've used it but wouldn't pay to upgrade to Vista because at the moment I see no benefit that justifies the cost.' It doesn't mean I know nothing about Vista, or even that it doesn't have benefits I can see. Rather, it means that having considered it, I rejected it and don't have it on any active machines, so I don't need to 'upgrade' back to XP. That is, I wasn't "silly enough" to either have upgraded, or bought machines with it on, without checking out the implications first.
Whether others opting for that choice are familiar with Vista and feel similarly, or just aren't familiar with it, I've no idea.
I ticked the "not silly enough" box and it's because i've tried it on my friend's PC's and i found it horrible. The lack of things that i just found plain useful in XP (the simplicity of the Start menu for one thing) and the lack of compatibility with games that i want to play.
I also agree with Saracen in that i don't see many things that Vista can offer me that doesn't already exist in XP. The only potential hooks are games that only run under Vista (but that's typically Microsoft franchises so no worries there) and DX10, but as the benefits aren't really enough to warrant a whole new OS that may or may not run the vast majority of my older games.. One reason i'm considering OSX is because with each new release, there is generally a tangible difference between versions - not just how pretty the GUI is - this is just my opinion from having tried, XP and Vista and OSX Tiger and OSX Leopard.
Last edited by Whiternoise; 21-12-2007 at 10:38 PM.
I find Vista great. No problems at all. Much preferable to XP now.
and i find myself in a position unenviable to others, a position where i see a lot of respected and knowledgeable hexites on the opposite side of the fence....
I love Vista, i really do, i am in the same situation that i was with 98 moving to XP and again it is time to move on.
Windows 95 took some getting used to, and by the time we were, 98 was out, 2 years later XP ruled the roost, and its taken 6 years to bring out yet another format for us to get to grips with, but then its taken 6 years for the technology to move that far forward imo.
There are a lot of niggles with Vista, but they are exactly that, niggles, like that itchy spot in your ear, that you can't quite scratch with a cotton bud because you are in danger of poking yourself in the brain.
It really is better than XP, in a lot of ways, but sometimes we seek the familiarity of XP, because after 6 years of using an operating system, we become accustomed to it, and we know its idiosync, its ido, its.... qwerks.... for want of a word i can't spell without looking at dictionary.com.
Vista looks good, it works mostly well, which is a lot more than i can say for XP when it came out, and nevertheless i am about to have a rant in GD about XP, VIsta and MS in general when it comes to the XBox, but am i satisfied, pretty much tbh.
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52% say 'Not silly enough to have tried it'?????
Talk about totally distorting the facts........
How on earth can an opinion be made on something without actually trying it?????
Tried it, hated it, went back to XP.
Ditto with my parent's laptop - they hated it too..
Nearly everyone I work with is of the same opinion too.
Buggy, bloated, awkward, flawed, pointless, it adds nothing useful and manages to make itself much more difficult to use in a productivity environment.
TBH, once this machine runs out of steam, my next computer will be a mac.
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But the poll didn't say that. It said "weren't silly enough to have run it first time round". Given the limited set of poll options, that's going to include people like me that have tried it, and see no point at the moment in going to it, and so still have live machines on XP (or 2000, or linux, etc) so don't need to "upgrade" from Vista back to XP.
I don't know about everybody else in the 52%, but I've tried it and see insufficient advantage to me in going to it, at the moment. Yes, Vista has advantages and some of them would be useful to me, but it has disadvantages too, not least of which is what it would cost to upgrade my machines. And what would I get from that "upgrade"? Some hardware that won't function because of lack of drivers. Some software that is working perfectly well for me but would need upgrading (adding to the cost) and a need to upgrade some machines just to run it effectively.
And, of course, there's a learning curve too. It'd cost me time working out how to do things that I can already do (in my sleep) on existing systems.
Will I end up on Vista? For some machines, inevitably yes. Other machines will eventually die or get retired and replacements will probably be supplied pre-installed. I've got nothing against Vista as such. It just doesn't offer me anything right now that justifies the cost and aggravation. But it certainly doesn't mean I don't know anything about it or haven't tried it.
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