Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Despite having Blu-ray at its disposable, Sony states that it believes today's disc-based delivery system will fall at the hands of digital distribution.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Oh Crumbs.... Biscuit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    N. Yorkshire
    Posts
    11,193
    Thanks
    1,394
    Thanked
    1,091 times in 833 posts
    • Biscuit's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI B450M Mortar
      • CPU:
      • AMD 2700X (Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3)
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Patriot Viper 2 @ 3466MHz
      • Storage:
      • 500GB WD Black
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 290X Vapor-X
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Focus Gold 750W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-V359
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 80/20

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    More high street shops shut and the level of obsesety grows parallel to the increase in digital convenience

  3. #3
    Will work for beer... nichomach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Preston, Lancs
    Posts
    6,137
    Thanks
    564
    Thanked
    139 times in 100 posts
    • nichomach's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3
      • CPU:
      • AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 95W
      • Memory:
      • 16GB DR3
      • Storage:
      • 1x250GB Maxtor SATAII, 1x 400GB Hitachi SATAII
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Zotac GTX 1060 3GB
      • PSU:
      • Coolermaster 500W
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Elite 430
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 20" TFT
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media Cable

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    I wonder how much of this is actually wishful thinking; currently, it seems to me that with digital distribution you frequently pay more than you would for the physical alternative from a supermarket or online store, and you get less, in the sense that it's encumbered with DRM, you don't get any nice packaging, and it's frequently a low-bitrate poor relation. Add in the fact that ISPs are seriously looking at a usage-charged model for connections and currently impose silly FUPs which downloading one SD, never mind HD, movie'd put you over, and I think they're jumping the gun a lot.

  4. #4
    DR
    DR is offline
    on ye old ship HEXUS DR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    HEXUS HQ, Elstree
    Posts
    13,412
    Thanks
    1,060
    Thanked
    841 times in 373 posts

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    I personally like the Napster model where you pay a fee and get access to everything - similar to how Sky works - but you pull down what you want. Because right now the battle they face is some people believe that its not much of an incentive to not pirate content.

    Also - I feel for the ISPs with all this data flying around...

  5. Received thanks from:

    Biscuit (20-06-2008)

  6. #5
    Oh Crumbs.... Biscuit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    N. Yorkshire
    Posts
    11,193
    Thanks
    1,394
    Thanked
    1,091 times in 833 posts
    • Biscuit's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI B450M Mortar
      • CPU:
      • AMD 2700X (Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3)
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Patriot Viper 2 @ 3466MHz
      • Storage:
      • 500GB WD Black
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 290X Vapor-X
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Focus Gold 750W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-V359
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 80/20

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by DR View Post
    I personally like the Napster model where you pay a fee and get access to everything - similar to how Sky works - but you pull down what you want. Because right now the battle they face is some people believe that its not much of an incentive to not pirate content.

    Also - I feel for the ISPs with all this data flying around...
    Whups didnt mean to thank you then

    There is no reason to feel sorry for ISPs AT ALL it has been quite obvious this kind of shift in distribution was going to happen sooner or later and they should have spent the time and money on upgrading their systems and pushing BT to upgrade now archaic twisted pair backbone.

    I have no time for any ISP supporting, they are tying to make the most money with the least actual benefits to the consumer.

  7. #6
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    31,023
    Thanks
    1,870
    Thanked
    3,381 times in 2,718 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
      • CPU:
      • Intel i9 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 970Evo+ NVMe
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2721DGF
      • Internet:
      • rubbish

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Works well for games though. Most people complain about having to swap discs or worry about scratching them. With digital distribution there's none of those concerns. Subscription services are already up and running too, so you can pay x a month and access a huge choice.

  8. #7
    DR
    DR is offline
    on ye old ship HEXUS DR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    HEXUS HQ, Elstree
    Posts
    13,412
    Thanks
    1,060
    Thanked
    841 times in 373 posts

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Whups didnt mean to thank you then

    There is no reason to feel sorry for ISPs AT ALL it has been quite obvious this kind of shift in distribution was going to happen sooner or later and they should have spent the time and money on upgrading their systems and pushing BT to upgrade now archaic twisted pair backbone.

    I have no time for any ISP supporting, they are tying to make the most money with the least actual benefits to the consumer.
    I don't think you understand a lot of the ISPs do invest a fair bit - BT are the main people making money at the moment - and it isn't their faul thtat they are lagging behind.


    The other thing is- people don't want to pay for a premium service - we signed with Zen and peoples main comment was price wasn't right - yet the performance and the speed is great. People want everything for nothing - tech/support/service/advertising all costs money.

    David

  9. #8
    DR
    DR is offline
    on ye old ship HEXUS DR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    HEXUS HQ, Elstree
    Posts
    13,412
    Thanks
    1,060
    Thanked
    841 times in 373 posts

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Works well for games though. Most people complain about having to swap discs or worry about scratching them. With digital distribution there's none of those concerns. Subscription services are already up and running too, so you can pay x a month and access a huge choice.
    Yep - and there are some really smart things coming out - such as rental for minutes - then own it - Steam did a great job.

  10. #9
    Oh Crumbs.... Biscuit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    N. Yorkshire
    Posts
    11,193
    Thanks
    1,394
    Thanked
    1,091 times in 833 posts
    • Biscuit's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI B450M Mortar
      • CPU:
      • AMD 2700X (Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3)
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Patriot Viper 2 @ 3466MHz
      • Storage:
      • 500GB WD Black
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 290X Vapor-X
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Focus Gold 750W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-V359
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 80/20

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by DR View Post
    I don't think you understand a lot of the ISPs do invest a fair bit - BT are the main people making money at the moment - and it isn't their faul thtat they are lagging behind.


    The other thing is- people don't want to pay for a premium service - we signed with Zen and peoples main comment was price wasn't right - yet the performance and the speed is great. People want everything for nothing - tech/support/service/advertising all costs money.

    David
    I understand these thing cost money but you cant honestly be trying to tell me that the majority of ISPs actually have the consumers at mind over their own pockets? Thusly Im pretty sure the amount they pump into BT doesnt add up to enough to actually boost BT into really doing anything.

    Look at Tiscali, they have gone around buying quite quite a number of smaller ISPs, surely they have made a dollar or two to be able to do this? Using them as a further example, i know from experience their customer service is dreadful, speeds are far below what is advertised... yes its reasonably cheap but we were still being ripped off for what we payed.
    Moved on to Aquiss and we get the same speeds on paper but i can promise you its far far superior. We get pings that are 10-20ms lower, speeds that are 200-300Kbps faster THROUGHOUT the day, much less harsh limits on downloading and to top it off the customer service is great... only for a £5-10 so more i believe. Now that line of good value for money doesnt seem to add up 5-10 pound a month more equals satisfaction in all areas? Personally im sticking to my opinion that ISPs have their own interests in mind and that alone.

  11. #10
    DR
    DR is offline
    on ye old ship HEXUS DR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    HEXUS HQ, Elstree
    Posts
    13,412
    Thanks
    1,060
    Thanked
    841 times in 373 posts

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I understand these thing cost money but you cant honestly be trying to tell me that the majority of ISPs actually have the consumers at mind over their own pockets? Thusly Im pretty sure the amount they pump into BT doesnt add up to enough to actually boost BT into really doing anything.

    Look at Tiscali, they have gone around buying quite quite a number of smaller ISPs, surely they have made a dollar or two to be able to do this? Using them as a further example, i know from experience their customer service is dreadful, speeds are far below what is advertised... yes its reasonably cheap but we were still being ripped off for what we payed.
    Moved on to Aquiss and we get the same speeds on paper but i can promise you its far far superior. We get pings that are 10-20ms lower, speeds that are 200-300Kbps faster THROUGHOUT the day, much less harsh limits on downloading and to top it off the customer service is great... only for a £5-10 so more i believe. Now that line of good value for money doesnt seem to add up 5-10 pound a month more equals satisfaction in all areas? Personally im sticking to my opinion that ISPs have their own interests in mind and that alone.

    I am not doubting that they are running as businesses with the aim of making money - you are right there. I am just saying - it is going to hurt them (and thus us!) if they don't have a model which will support the increased use of bandwidth. If they don't have this model - then the prices will increase.

    I will always pay that little more for the UK call centre, someone to yell at - as value is not just down to price, its down to service too.

  12. #11
    HEXUS.social member Agent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    19,185
    Thanks
    739
    Thanked
    1,614 times in 1,050 posts

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    I think it will be a long way off - too many people like to have a physical copy. Myself included.

    That and I don't trust them to keep letting me access my digital data. Something like Napster is great - until their authorisation servers go down and you're left with 100 gig of music you can't listen to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

  13. #12
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Warrington
    Posts
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    • SystemBuilder's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit AN-M2 uATX
      • CPU:
      • AMD AM2 4000+
      • Memory:
      • Corsair XMS 2x2GB DDR800
      • Storage:
      • 1x250GB Sata2 and 1x500GB SataRaid
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gainward 8600GTS, 512MB
      • PSU:
      • Generic 400W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Sugo
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG Flatron Wide 22" TFT (1680x1050)
      • Internet:
      • Blueyonder Broadband, via router and Hardware Firewall.

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    I'd rather have a DVD, or BluRay disk for a Hard copy. Sure, having your media on a PC's harddrive is handy, but drives are not reliable enough, nor is Windows. The 5inch Compact (Be it CD,DVD or BluRay) is here to stay.

  14. #13
    Moderator chuckskull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    The Frozen North
    Posts
    7,713
    Thanks
    951
    Thanked
    690 times in 463 posts
    • chuckskull's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z77-D3H
      • CPU:
      • 3570k @ 4.7 - H100i
      • Memory:
      • 32GB XMS3 1600mhz
      • Storage:
      • 256GB Samsung 850 Pro + 3TB Seagate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 980Ti Classified
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic M12 700W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 500R
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus VG278HE
      • Internet:
      • FTTC

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Premature(by about 2 console generations tbh) but Sony are on the money. Disc's though won't die a complete death. Not for a very long time.

  15. #14
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    west
    Posts
    58
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts
    • leexgx's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Rampage extream II
      • CPU:
      • i7-920 @ 4Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 6GB OCZ gold 1600
      • Storage:
      • M225 250GB, 1TB segate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX480
      • PSU:
      • Thermaltake 1000W
      • Case:
      • antec 900
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 64
      • Internet:
      • real super fast VM 51MB (not fake 24mb superfast thats infact 1mb)

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    hard copy is best option for consoles
    warhark will Not work on any of my sub accounts on my PS3, so thats the Last game i ever buy from PSN (the DRM should be linked to my sub accounts (that are linked to my prim account) that are on the PSN so any game i buy we can play on are own profiles

  16. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    5
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Small correction for you, it should read 'at its disposal' and not 'at its disposable'.

  17. #16
    HEXUS.social member finlay666's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Newcastle
    Posts
    8,546
    Thanks
    297
    Thanked
    894 times in 535 posts
    • finlay666's system
      • CPU:
      • 3570k
      • Memory:
      • 16gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 6950 2gb
      • Case:
      • Fractal R3
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8
      • Monitor(s):
      • U2713HM and V222H
      • Internet:
      • cable

    Re: Headlines - Sony: Disc-based delivery system will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    That and I don't trust them to keep letting me access my digital data. Something like Napster is great - until their authorisation servers go down and you're left with 100 gig of music you can't listen to.
    Yarr, google be the friend of Long John Silver for when thy Napster services go down like a man overboard

    darn....need a pirate icon....


    Anyway...I think it is clear sony are goign away from disc based systems, just look at the games on the PS3 that have to be installed to the hard drive, blu ray is just so damn slow for random access IIRC that the DVD is a better choice for some games.
    H3XU5 Social FAQ
    Quote Originally Posted by tiggerai View Post
    I do like a bit of hot crumpet

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-01-2006, 07:04 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •