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    News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Showing that the nation's phone lines still has legs, Be Broadband has completed its first trial of a 48Mb service.
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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    The only downside I can see from this is having to have 2 active BT lines and that the overall speeds will be affected by the SNR on the phonelines themselves.

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Wow I just got excited there thinking it said "offers"
    I'd like to see the price though, and how far those users (the lucky gits ) were from the exchange compared to their speeds they got.

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    they probably lived in the exchange!
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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Quote Originally Posted by HEXUS View Post
    Thats only useful provided you can get even one 24mbps line.

    I would have got 6 mbps of unstable connection (2x3mbps) where I used to live and had Be last year. I used to have a good 4.7 mbps connection to begin with. In the final three months, it just deteriorated until it somewhat (I would say stabilised, but that wouldnt be right) stopped getting worse at 2.9-3 mbps. But still dropped out randomly. When I called them, they could find no fault. Didnt pursue it too much as I knew I was going to terminate the connection soon enough.

    Still, good to know they are trying.
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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Be uses LLU, so why not try out VDSL2 hardware?

    Then again I have no idea what the DSLAM costs for that would be, and the top data rates can only be had with a 300m line-length... so it's more of a "from the roadside cabinet" DSL than ADSL.
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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Not sure how relevant it is, but Be* is only a partial LLU service in that they provide a broadband service only, line rental is still BT

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinizter View Post
    Thats only useful provided you can get even one 24mbps line.

    I would have got 6 mbps of unstable connection (2x3mbps) where I used to live and had Be last year. I used to have a good 4.7 mbps connection to begin with. In the final three months, it just deteriorated until it somewhat (I would say stabilised, but that wouldnt be right) stopped getting worse at 2.9-3 mbps. But still dropped out randomly. When I called them, they could find no fault. Didnt pursue it too much as I knew I was going to terminate the connection soon enough.

    Still, good to know they are trying.
    that's a problem with ADSL, distance, the speed you'll get will depend on how far you live from the exchange. (not the only factor in determining ADSL speed though)

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    They already have ADSL2+ hardware in unbundles exchanges, bonding multiple lines together isn't anything new, so adding this service is really only a case of getting the dSLAM software sorted out and their billing/customer service amended to cope. No new hardware should be involved.

    an impressive feat, considering it's delivered through a standard BT phone line.
    Shouldn't that be: delivered through standard BT phone lines?


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Be uses LLU, so why not try out VDSL2 hardware?

    Then again I have no idea what the DSLAM costs for that would be, and the top data rates can only be had with a 300m line-length... so it's more of a "from the roadside cabinet" DSL than ADSL.
    Just had a little look, and VDSL2 routers aren't that expensive, so I can't imagine that the dSLAM costs would be significantly higher than for ADSL, they are mostly software based and programable these days anyway.

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Looks suspiciously like a purely PR spoiler to the VM 50MBit launch..

    Up to 48Meg!*

    *Requires 2 BT phonelines, expensive ADSL hardware, a very short line length, a lot of luck and a fair wind, and the moon to be in orion..
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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    If Be are starting this service, it will only be a matter of time until O2 start doing the same

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo View Post
    Looks suspiciously like a purely PR spoiler to the VM 50MBit launch..

    Up to 48Meg!*

    *Requires 2 BT phonelines, expensive ADSL hardware, a very short line length, a lot of luck and a fair wind, and the moon to be in orion..
    Which is nevertheless a greater chance than you have of getting VM 50Meg if you don't live in a cabled area!

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    If Be are starting this service, it will only be a matter of time until O2 start doing the same
    Don't O2 only support upto 16 Mb anyway so that would make their fastest offering upto 32 Mb if they bond lines (which I doubt they will offer really)

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN View Post
    Don't O2 only support upto 16 Mb anyway so that would make their fastest offering upto 32 Mb if they bond lines (which I doubt really)
    20mb iirc

    16mb is the middle package

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Well Be can't even give me their 8Mb package here in Peterborough. I phoned them up and they tested the line and told me that the best I could expect would be a relatively reliable 4Mb.
    That's less than VM throttle me to when I've been downloading loads so they're no competition as far as I can see.
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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Quote Originally Posted by Betty_Swallocks View Post
    Well Be can't even give me their 8Mb package here in Peterborough. I phoned them up and they tested the line and told me that the best I could expect would be a relatively reliable 4Mb.
    That's less than VM throttle me to when I've been downloading loads so they're no competition as far as I can see.
    That's not hardly Be's fault thought is it ?

    The people you really need to be having a chinwag with are BT. Some of their wiring is absolutely bizarre and must have been designed by mentally instable patients at the local nut-house. I have a friend who is less than 1 Km to the exchange, but his actual line length is 2.2 Km due to the fact that it goes up the road on one side, and then back down the other side towards the exchange. You would have thought they would have gone for the shortest distances possible to save in costs for the cables.

    Next up is their us of aluminium cabling instead of copper but I'll save that for another time

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    Re: News - Be Broadband demonstrates 48Mb ADSL service

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN View Post
    The people you really need to be having a chinwag with are BT. Some of their wiring is absolutely bizarre and must have been designed by mentally instable patients at the local nut-house. I have a friend who is less than 1 Km to the exchange, but his actual line length is 2.2 Km due to the fact that it goes up the road on one side, and then back down the other side towards the exchange. You would have thought they would have gone for the shortest distances possible to save in costs for the cables.
    Telephone services started in the UK in 1876 using Telegraph lines that were in place since about 1846, the network has been growing and changing ever since. Much of it hasn't changed since it was layed.

    The oldest part of the VM network might go back to 1984 when Telewest was Croyden Cable, but I doubt it still exists in that form.

    Is there any surprise you can get higher data rates from a network that was actually designed for that purpose?

    21CN is a huge investment for BT to modernise their network, and even then it's only a stop gap as they will fairly quickly after need to upgrade the mini-dSLAMs they are planning on installing in roadside cabinets to something with more bells and whistles.

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