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    News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Did you know Barack Obama is US president? Amazing eh? Here?s his agenda for technology.
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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Advance stem cell research
    Yay for stem cells, although I doubt all the idiots who are against this will be easy to bypass.

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Christopher Reeve would have been pleased to hear that.

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBloodyNine View Post
    Yay for stem cells, although I doubt all the idiots who are against this will be easy to bypass.
    i am all for Stem Cell research, i don't agree that the people who are against it will make it difficult for the simple reason that if the government want to make it happen they will, although I am also for freedom of speech and to be against something if you so wish if you oppose something fair enough even though it never makes any difference either way.


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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    hooray for net neutrality

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Aye, the stem cells news is good news.

    Obama must fight against the cancer of organised religion holding back his nation.

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve A View Post
    i am all for Stem Cell research, i don't agree that the people who are against it will make it difficult for the simple reason that if the government want to make it happen they will, although I am also for freedom of speech and to be against something if you so wish if you oppose something fair enough even though it never makes any difference either way.

    It depends if the people that are against stem cell research are the same people who are the law makers, I know Obama has a lot of power, however the Senate have the final say.

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Senators can be....problematic. Just like here

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    An American president for net neutrality and more privacy for the user?!?! I think it's time for me to eat my proverbial hat!
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    i am a christian and im not sure i agree with stem cell research, i know alot of good can come from it but i will have to learn more before i fully accept it.
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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    Obama must fight against the cancer of organised religion holding back his nation.
    hmm not sure i appreciate that comment
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    i am a christian and im not sure i agree with stem cell research, i know alot of good can come from it but i will have to learn more before i fully accept it.
    Not wanting to take a pop.....but if you can accept something like Christianity with zero evidence or proof, why do you need more info before accepting something that can cure MS? (and possibly a slew of other conditions)

    Seems a bizarre line of thought to me.
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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Not wanting to take a pop.....but if you can accept something like Christianity with zero evidence or proof, why do you need more info before accepting something that can cure MS? (and possibly a slew of other conditions)

    Seems a bizarre line of thought to me.
    good question, well my main reasoning behind that is that stem cell research can involve the extraction of stem cells from feotus' and it is therefore plausible that scientists will use test tube babies in future for this. This ofcourse i am strongly against as i beleive all human life is important, especially that of a baby. If stem cell research was to be fully introduced then i believe we would have to have limits on the time in which stem cells can be taken from a feotus. Yes it is true that we can have adult stem cells, but the truly significant ones are the ones that have not been developed and therefore have potential to grow into any organ or differentiated cell.


    As to proof for me believing in god, it is just as plausable as the big bang theory in that some kind of energy must have been present for this "big bang" to occur in the first place. I could discuss all day with you why i believe in god and have a nice discussion. Just PM me if u want to have one. as i said above, i am all for discussion and love answering questions about my faith.

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    edit: also i do not accept christianity with zero evidence or proof, i have spent a long time thinking about it as an agnostic and i have come to the conclusion that "something" must have created the earth and all the planets surrounding, we cant just have apeared from nothing in my opinion. So therefore i put my trust in God. I like to believe that when i die i will go to heaven, because the alternative that there is no heaven is also too tough to bear. God must have created us for a reason and i believe we will find this out in heaven and understand alot more. Ew this is turning really preachery im off lol cya later.
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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by thunder12 View Post
    I like to believe that when i die i will go to heaven, because the alternative that there is no heaven is also too tough to bear.
    This is why I don't like religions they are all based upon you being eternal and use shock tactics to get other people to "believe".

    As I don't know you at all I will just say this, don't fall into the trap of being shocked into joining Christianity for fear of what comes after death. The way I think of it is that lets say God does exist, being a Christian doesn't just grant you eternal life (not in my opinion). The way I think is I am not a Christian, I don't believe in many of the things the bible tells me, thus being a Christian for the sake of being eternal because I fear I may not exist anymore if I'm not, is quite simply just... wrong.
    Forgive me if you are a true Christian, just these days I see it more and more. Lots of these fake Christians only obessed with their own selfishness of wanting to be eternal.

    We get the complete nut job Christians sometimes who come on places like this, telling everyone they will live forever and that everyone else is going to Hell (not just in the basic way of saying it but more trying to ram it down everyones throats i.e the shock tactics I talked about earlier).

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    Re: News - Obama announces his technology agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by grayg1 View Post
    This is why I don't like religions they are all based upon you being eternal and use shock tactics to get other people to "believe".

    As I don't know you at all I will just say this, don't fall into the trap of being shocked into joining Christianity for fear of what comes after death. The way I think of it is that lets say God does exist, being a Christian doesn't just grant you eternal life (not in my opinion). The way I think is I am not a Christian, I don't believe in many of the things the bible tells me, thus being a Christian for the sake of being eternal because I fear I may not exist anymore if I'm not, is quite simply just... wrong.
    Forgive me if you are a true Christian, just these days I see it more and more. Lots of these fake Christians only obessed with their own selfishness of wanting to be eternal.

    We get the complete nut job Christians sometimes who come on places like this, telling everyone they will live forever and that everyone else is going to Hell (not just in the basic way of saying it but more trying to ram it down everyones throats i.e the shock tactics I talked about earlier).

    Oh i have been a christian for more than 4 years. And i am by no means a "nut job". I am in no going to force my religion upon anyone. And yes i indeed do view myself asa true christian, i did mention the eternal life thing, but there is so much more to being a christian than that. The same is true with most religions.

    I do not know what the rules are in this forum for having religious debates or discussions as this is banned in some forums.

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