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    Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    As we get closer to the first launches of this new mini-notebook concept, not everyone is sold on the idea.
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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    It's all a bit much now.

    A Smartphone is what most people need, I imagine carrying a smartbook around all day would be very inconvenient.

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    You'd have to have something 'cloud' like for data storage otherwise it's just another place to lose files. I'd be tempted for one as a web browser around the house, but it's a gimmick really.

    I don't see much business potential either, people either use a smartphone for mobile email or a laptop to actually do work.

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    My phone is too small for a lot of things, despite being allegedly 'smart'...

    My Netbook (an EEE 901 with a larger battery than usual and speedier 32GB SSD) offers me the long battery life and useful device size, but weighs in fairly chunky still.

    I'd be interested in dumping the idea of an all singing phone, just have something fairly standard and then also when I'm doing more than going to sainsburys' I can take my 'smartbook' - which in my fantasy world is a device weighing about 800g max, has 5-6 hours of battery life, a decent resolution 8-9" screen (720p ideally), wifi, 3G data and runs a useful Linux distro such as Ubuntu or Debian, just a small Netbook really... oh and costs <£200.

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    I'd be interested in dumping the idea of an all singing phone, just have something fairly standard and then also when I'm doing more than going to sainsburys' I can take my 'smartbook' - which in my fantasy world is a device weighing about 800g max, has 5-6 hours of battery life, a decent resolution 8-9" screen (720p ideally), wifi, 3G data and runs a useful Linux distro such as Ubuntu or Debian, just a small Netbook really... oh and costs <£200.

    And you will fit that in your pocket? With 800g of weight in your pocket all day people will think you have a limp. Can people be bothered to carry a bag with them everywhere they go (excluding women)?

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Well if its anything like a Psion I recon they might have a hit. The psion did well because it was just about pocket sized, full usable keyboard and simple to use but tons of business functionality. Remember this is where the symbian OS lots of 'smart' phones use came from - including my n96!

    Don't forgot - business guys love their blueberries - imagine how much they'd like something similar (just a little bit bigger) with a really useable keyboard and screen.
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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    A "smartbook" about the size and shape of a Sony Vaio P would be pretty useful to me. Especially if it was around £200-250. I'd go for that.

    It also just goes to show how far ahead of the curve OQO were. Just a shame they never made any money

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    I'm waiting for a smart-top.
    Low power ARM desktops around half the size of the Acer Revo that run Linux.
    Heck, build them in to TVs and then you have the Media PC for consumers that everyone has trying to build for the past X number of years already built-in to the television.
    These could quite easily be rolled out for less than £100 and do 90% of what the average (i.e. non-gamer) person needs with a computer (web browse/email/IM/VOiP/Media playback etc.)

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    Well if its anything like a Psion I recon they might have a hit. The psion did well because it was just about pocket sized, full usable keyboard and simple to use but tons of business functionality.
    The reason it did well was because there was nothing like it at the time, today you have devices which are the size of a mobile phone which can do pretty much anything - look at the HTC Touch Pro 2, large screen, good enough for web browsing, great keyboard and is the size of a mobile phone. Furthermore pretty much every mobile phone comes with a web browser and an organiser these days, there is too much competition out there at the moment.

    I doubt these smartbooks will catch on, if they do, it will be a fad.

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeludedGuy View Post
    And you will fit that in your pocket? With 800g of weight in your pocket all day people will think you have a limp. Can people be bothered to carry a bag with them everywhere they go (excluding women)?
    Why i carry a man bag with my sony P series in.

    (which strangely enough forefills most of the requirements, its uber light, ultra high res screen (1600 pixels baby!.... i really love that thing)
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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Lets see, what could the market be for a Netbook, that is cheaper, lighter, thinner and with longer battery life.

    Hmmmm....

    If people can bare to accept the fact that they don't actually do anything with Windows that requires Windows they'll be fine.

    Grrr. I'm having a angry and ARGUMENTATIVE day!!!

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    A "smartbook" about the size and shape of a Sony Vaio P would be pretty useful to me. Especially if it was around £200-250. I'd go for that.
    Anything Vaio P sized is welcome in my book, especially if it can play (and output) HD video, has decent battery life and comes at a reasonable price. Came very close to buying one the other day, could get the 1.3GHz, Vista Home Premium model for £450 after staff discount and Sony cashback. Still tempted!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Why i carry a man bag with my sony P series in.

    (which strangely enough forefills most of the requirements, its uber light, ultra high res screen (1600 pixels baby!.... i really love that thing)
    Maybe a silly question, but if you had the chance to buy another one, would you?

    Also, what battery life are you dragging out of it at the moment? I'm more concerned about that than anything else.

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    Re: Analysis - Smartbooks are coming, but is there demand?

    Quote Originally Posted by McPhee View Post
    Maybe a silly question, but if you had the chance to buy another one, would you?

    Also, what battery life are you dragging out of it at the moment? I'm more concerned about that than anything else.
    Totally.

    Downsides, the CPU is slow compared to a C2D, getting the GPS + 3.5G to function properly under win7, with the app that lets you very quickly and easily turn them on/off to save power was one of those mini adventures that took about 2 hours, it was almost linux pain levels.

    The HDD could really do with been replaced by an expensive SSD.

    The keyboard takes some effort in getting used to, it is as bad as typing on a macbook. The keys have even less travel than useual, and once again the world has forgotton that PSION showed everyone what a compact keyboard should be like 10 years ago..........

    But thats the only negative things.

    Batterylife, out of the slim battery I get about 2.5 hours normally. On the larger battery I get 5 and a bit hours, it does drop to 4 if i'm using the 3.5G data heavily and the backlight turned up to full.

    Real world performance, it has no issue dealing with my 15megapixel RAW images from the digicam, it runs visual studio 2008 happily. Browsing the web I tend to have flash turned off, faster page loads especially when at the mercy of 3 and better battery life.

    However, it is not my only PC nor would i suggest anyone buy it as their only PC.

    Still for what I wanted it for tube PC, client site presentations + demos, something to take with me when flying. Its the best product on the market by quite some distance.

    Also note its not worth the original £1k+ price tag, and if the price dosen't drop once the re-bate is over, then its probably not worth that much either.
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