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    News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    The tide may be turning as a music industry association reports a marked increase in sales since April.
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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Problem is, worldwide sales are up which doesn't support the view that the 'beat em with a big fecking stick' approach equals better revenue.
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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    I also take it a jump in music sales isn't connected with the fact countries are slowly crawling their way out of a recession....?

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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Pirate bay was just a search engine and there are plenty out there still to choose from. Shutting it didnt stop illegal downloads so seems like an odd rise in sales to me.

    Problem is, worldwide sales are up which doesn't support the view that the 'beat em with a big fecking stick' approach equals better revenue.
    If worldwide sales are also up maybe its mainly because of less dire economic situation instead of sweden winning some insignificant battle against one website!

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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Sippin40oz View Post
    Pirate bay was just a search engine and there are plenty out there still to choose from. Shutting it didnt stop illegal downloads so seems like an odd rise in sales to me.
    They didn't shut the pirate bay, it's still running and hosting torrents just the same as it was before the ruling.
    I don't mean to sound cold, or cruel, or vicious, but I am so that's the way it comes out.

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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Speaking exclusively to HEXUS.channel recently, CEO of digital media site 7digital - Ben Drury - said the best way to combat piracy is to make the legal, paid-for services so good as to render the alternatives undesirable. And it's far from clear how much this uplift in Swedish music has come from the Pirate Bay ruling, as opposed to a general improvement if legal services like Spotify.

    Legal cheap services are the way forward. No one will ever stop pirating, it has been around forever and will be around as long as people have something to gain.

    Why pay £20 for a new film on DVD when you can download it for free and before the usual release. Way to solve this. Make the release date global and the price cheaper. People don't want to spend £20 to fund someone else's lavish lifestyle..

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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    Speaking exclusively to HEXUS.channel recently, CEO of digital media site 7digital - Ben Drury - said the best way to combat piracy is to make the legal, paid-for services so good as to render the alternatives undesirable. And it's far from clear how much this uplift in Swedish music has come from the Pirate Bay ruling, as opposed to a general improvement if legal services like Spotify.

    Legal cheap services are the way forward. No one will ever stop pirating, it has been around forever and will be around as long as people have something to gain.

    Why pay £20 for a new film on DVD when you can download it for free and before the usual release. Way to solve this. Make the release date global and the price cheaper. People don't want to spend £20 to fund someone else's lavish lifestyle..

    Well said. I decided to legally buy crysis Warhead for £3.47 instead of downloading it.
    Same thing with Windows 7. £30 was a decent price, so didnt pirate.

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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    3.47 and 30 are gorgeous price though, nailed on sales for a high profile game and a new OS, the sort of prices people would do without thinking
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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    [...]the best way to combat piracy is to make the legal, paid-for services so good as to render the alternatives undesirable. [...] People don't want to spend £20 to fund someone else's lavish lifestyle..
    I really do not know how anything digitalised can objectively compete with free+just as good. Games (Steam) work to some extent because of multiplayer on official servers. But how do you add value to music and movies? The author/record company/etc. need to create the product, market and distribute. Pirates only need to rip, bypassing any protection (still much cheaper than creating something from scratch), and distribute. The only way you could add value that can't be easily pirated would be to provide limited edition products with physical goodies. This isn't free either, and won't appeal to people who only want the digital content. Yeah, £30-ish for Windows 7 is a great price. Yet I have *still* seen posters complaining it's 'too expensive'. Not many compared to those who praise the low cost, but they have to sell that many more copies (which I am sure they want, market share and all).

    Well, I suppose they could always pay the users to use their product. Now THAT ought to take care of piracy

    And £20 does not fund a lavish lifestyle. It's only if enough people pay. And where is the problem with that? I am sorry, but I do not see how the contribution to someone else's success should influence whether or not you pay for his work or not. I like it (enough), I buy it. I don't give a doodle, and I do not see anyone who favours a more capitalist system over a more socialist system would, if all my friend's and their friends likes it, buy the product, resulting in the author being able to afford wiping his arse with £20 bills (though I would hope that said person will try to give some back for the good of society, whether for the PR or out of their own desire).
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    Re: News - Music sales in Sweden jumped after Pirate Bay ruling

    Pirate Bay? Google is my pirating search engine! JK

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