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    News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    ISP will inspect its network to see how much illegal file-sharing is going on, but won?t be able to identify individuals.
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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Hmmm, this plus VM's traffic shaping and network throttling, wonder where there gonna go next...

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    while i see these programs as as bordering on infringing our privacy i also think if you have nothing to hide then who gives a rats.


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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Quote Originally Posted by danroyle View Post
    if you have nothing to hide then who gives a rats.
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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Quote Originally Posted by Hexus
    ...in order to supply information on the total volume of file-sharing.
    and this identifies the extent of illegal file sharing how? Did I miss the bit where they explain how they distinguish between file sharing of copyrighted material using p2p and sharing of e.g. latest builds of open source software using the same p2p protocols? Are they seriously going to have someone sit and assess every individual torrent being used, or just assume all torrents=illegal, all torrents on one specific tracker = illegal, or just take some arbitrary proportion as being illegal.

    I may be exposing my lack of any detailed knowledge here, but I understood downloading files on iplayer uses p2p protocols as well... I'm presuming there may be some easy way to identify traffic associated with that, or maybe not?

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Im with the above comment. How can they tell the difference between Live for example and my sexeh pr0nz downloads ?
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    "Detica's CView technology potentially offers a non-intrusive solution"

    It uses deep packet inspection... how is it not intrusive?
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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    I don't like the looks of this but like the other poster says, how they know what is what being downloaded/shared and whatever?

    And after their "research" is complete, what are they going to do about it, I gotta a feeling that a ISP change might be needed soon.

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Quote Originally Posted by IronWarrior View Post
    I don't like the looks of this but like the other poster says, how they know what is what being downloaded/shared and whatever?

    And after their "research" is complete, what are they going to do about it, I gotta a feeling that a ISP change might be needed soon.
    I have a feeling I might be with you - only shame is that on-one else can offer 20/50mb connections to me.

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    I am assuming each packet has a label on it.

    So, if you are downloading Crysis, e.g. each 100MB packet will have crysis labelled on it.

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    How about if it's encrypted? They might be able to detect if it's p2p, but that doesn't mean it's illegal - many legal things, such as Linux distros, are file-shared.

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Get it done!

    Kill off the theives.

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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Better not detect legit P2P for things like Linux distros as illegal. I don't pirate but do download Linux distros on a semi regular basis...
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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Another significant use of peer to peer technology aside from Linux distributions is for game patches, and what about the illegal file sharing that's not done done through the normal means (torrents) such as rapid share etc.

    I don't think they thought this through very well.
    I don't mean to sound cold, or cruel, or vicious, but I am so that's the way it comes out.

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    when are they going to uderstand, they cant stop people downloading stuff iligally?
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    Re: News - Virgin Media to trial file-sharing tracking system

    Arn't the likes of BBC Iplayer etc done via a sort of p2p network aswell? Surely that would be a fairly substantial part of file sharing aswell?

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