News - YouTube's HTML5 experiment sheds the need for Adobe's Flash Player

[HEXUS]

Popular video-sharing website YouTube has launched an experimental version of an HTML5-supported player.

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[matty-hodgson]

well.. it doesn't seem to work very well, even for a beta :\

[digit]

Yeah... I installed Chrome Frame for IE. Join the beta and then get told it won't work with my browser. Awesome

[Singh400]

I've tried a few scripts/extensions that use HTML5 in Chrome for YouTube and it doesn't work very well. Pause, seek and replay were broken last time I tried it.

[mikerr]

Freedom from flash is welcome, but no support in firefox yet then?

[Mblaster]

well.. it doesn't seem to work very well, even for a beta :\

Works pretty well for me in Chrome (v4.0.249.64 Beta), what browser are you using?

No fullscreen support yet, don't know if it's a HTML5 limitation but I'm sure it'll be implemented given time. Not sure if this is a bug or a difference in the way the video is downloaded, but the entire progress bar turns the light red colour (normally indicating that this part of the video has been downloaded) as soon as the page loads. Pretty sure my 2Mbps connection can't download a 4 minute video in a couple of seconds

[watercooled]

The progress bar normally turns red like that on some streaming programs like those on the Channel 4 channel - I think it's because they stream rather than buffer the whole thing, possibly so it's harder to download them or maybe because some of them are an hour or longer and would take up a fair bit of space in the temp directory. Try a video you know loads 'normally' in flash player and see if it still happens.
I think this is a good idea, less reliance on third-party/proprietary software. I thought Firefox 3.5 had some form of video viewing capability built-in? Don't think it was HTML5 but there was an example video shown after upgrading from FF 3.
Edit: Found it (or something like it at least): http://mn-mn.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/

[Mblaster]

The progress bar normally turns red like that on some streaming programs like those on the Channel 4 channel - I think it's because they stream rather than buffer the whole thing, possibly so it's harder to download them or maybe because some of them are an hour or longer and would take up a fair bit of space in the temp directory. Try a video you know loads 'normally' in flash player and see if it still happens.

This was on youtube, all the videos load in the same way on there so that's not the reason behind it.

[watercooled]

Actually, all the videos don't load the same way like I just explained - go and watch this for example when using flash player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXUmm8ITqY

[Mblaster]

Actually, all the videos don't load the same way like I just explained - go and watch this for example when using flash player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXUmm8ITqY

Oh I see what you mean, thought you were talking about 4oD when you mentioned Channel4, and that's only because Channel4/Five have a customized youtube channel, all user uploaded videos are the same.

[watercooled]

I said the Channel 4 channel, referring to a Youtube channel. Yeah they do have a non-standard account but I thought it might have been one of those videos you were testing it on.

[funke_munke]

Ooo does this mean we could stop holding our breath for 64-bit flash and just wait for this? It'll probably be here sooner!

[Funkstar]

Opera 10.5 has support for the <video> tag in HTML5 (Opera were the ones who proposed it in the first place).

Some information about it in 10.5 here: http://my.opera.com/core/blog/2009/1...roducing-video

And there is a list of test pages at the bottom of the article.

[watercooled]

I forgot to mention it in my first post but this should be good for Linux users too - flash on Linux has a big CPU overhead and on older PCs that play a video fine under XP or something can't keep a smooth framerate under Linux.