News - Press-shot of Radeon 6870 leaked?

[HEXUS]

Only days away from suspected launch, could this be the next-gen card?

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[nibbler]

So if it's set to be a beefed up 5770 is it safe to assume it will be slower than a 5870?
In which case the naming strategy has just gone to pot.

[borandi]

So if it's set to be a beefed up 5770 is it safe to assume it will be slower than a 5870?
In which case the naming strategy has just gone to pot.

It's been known for quite some time that the 69xx will now be the high end.

[nibbler]

Thanks, fair enough I managed to miss that. That's silly, I thought it was going to be the 6770, not the 6870.

[scaryjim]

How it compares, performancewise, to the 5870 will depend on clock speeds. The last rumour was that Barts XT would be 1280 shaders running at 900MHz, 64 TUs (keeping the 20:1 ration which always seemed texture-light to me, considering how well the 4670 ran with a higher texture:shader ratio...), and 32 ROPs. All of which put it between the 5850 and 5870 for shading and texturing, but ahead of them for sampling and pixel fill rate.

Unless AMD reckon their previous cards were bottlenecked by pixel fill rate, I'd guess we're looking at not quite as fast as the 5870. It certainly seems odd to bring out a card with such mediocre specs into the - historically - same numbering space as the top end cards previously. It also clashes with the last set of slides leaked (the one I linked to above) which says that Barts XT will be the 6770, so someone's got their rumour wrong somewhere...

[HalloweenJack]

rumours rumours rumours - i think this will be the 5870 replacement , as it shows the small speed bump a refresh product would have;


IF they have a super secret surprise , then who can say what they`ve been doing at GF

[kalniel]

rumours rumours rumours - i think this will be the 5870 replacement , as it shows the small speed bump a refresh product would have;

You don't think the name 6870 is a bigger give away?

[HW_90]

well apparently the 57xx's are becoming 67xx's so what should have been the 67xx will be the 68xx and what should have been the 68xx will be the 69xx

[cameronlite]

Im still wondering how much better these cards could actually be. Fair enough, it's been a year, but its the same architechture.

They can't really afford to release these if the performance increase is <10%

[c.ruel]

When i read this I thought "wow ATI/AMD whatever must be a whole generation ahead of Nvidia now". But clearly they are not, it just looks like the same architecture slightly fiddled and rebranded. I thought that with graphics cards you always realised one of your fastest ones frist and then trimmed it down to produce more mainstream models. Seems odd that when you look at screenshoot in the above comment it refers to the 6770 and not the 6780 or whatever. Shame really I was hoping it would force nvidia to drop there prices so you could pick up a 768mb 460GTX for around £100 ... that would be nice.

[HalloweenJack]

You don't think the name 6870 is a bigger give away?

not when AMD are playing with the naming it isnt , rumour mill says this is the 5770 replacement



and

Barts Pro (6850):
- 800 SP
- GPU: 775 MHz
- Muistit: 1 Gt GDDR5 1000 MHz
- 256-bit

Barts XT (6870):
- 960 SP
- GPU: 900 MHz
- Muistit: 1 Gt GDDR5 1050 MHz
- 256-bit

Info from Sweclockers.com and Sampsa Kurri's source verified this too (Muropaketti's admin / "owner")

[scaryjim]

Barts XT (6870):
- 960 SP
- GPU: 900 MHz

That's in direct contradiction of the slide I linked to which leaked Barts XT as being 1280 shaders. Can we *please* get a definitive rumour before we start debating the pros and cons of the naming scheme

I find it highly unlikely that AMD are going to release 68x0 models that are slower than the 58x0 models. It will get utterly slated by the tech media and enthusiasts if it does that: it got a bad enough hammering from enthusiasts when the 5770 failed to outperform the 4870. Most people will look at the model number to work out a cards market segment, not the launch rpice. So even if a 6870 launches at £125, people will *still* expect it to outperform the 5870. That may not make a lot of sense, but I'm afraid us consumers don't have a lot of common sense en mass

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Perhaps the two different specifications released are for the 6700 and 6800 series cards??

TBH,if the HD6770 1GB is simply a rebrand of the HD5770 1GB I will be getting a GTX460 768MB.

[HalloweenJack]

the chiphell slide is also showing a naming convention of 6700 series

http://img.hexus.net/v2/pmason/ati/6000/slide-3.jpg , so right now with all the numbers floating around , it going to take actual samples to know what the truth is