News - 'Orbis' revealed as Playstation 4 name?

[HEXUS]

Several more details leak through the seams, suggesting a Southern Islands GPU.

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[crossy]

It appears as though Sony won't quite go the full hog and outlaw second-hand content all-together, however, with it being suggested second-hand games will function in a demo mode, until the new owner pays an unlock fee. Here's hoping Sony just focuses on making better games as opposed to squeezing its customers for all they're worth.

Agree totally (although I'm an XBox guy not a PS3 one), and an outright ban on 2nd user titles strikes me as something that the EU would take a dim view of. That said, I'm sure that if Sony were to drop the price of new titles accordingly then there'd be less objection to destroying the 2nd user market.

What worries me is that if Sony "get away with it" for Orbis, then they'll try and find a way to apply retrospectively to Vita. In which case, (and more applicably to me), you can pretty much guarantee that Microsoft will follow suit with the XBox720 (or whatever it'll be called).

[Djini]

The name doesn't interest me so much as;

1. How much
2. When
3. How powerful

Looks like this is going some way to answer #3... 'too much' by the sounds of it. When this gen announced pay-for DLC I said one day, we'll be paying for ammo in shooters.

We're one more step closer to that.

[cheesemp]

Agree totally (although I'm an XBox guy not a PS3 one), and an outright ban on 2nd user titles strikes me as something that the EU would take a dim view of. That said, I'm sure that if Sony were to drop the price of new titles accordingly then there'd be less objection to destroying the 2nd user market.

I don't see how anyone can object - They've key locked PC Games for years now and no one has complained. To do so now would be completely unfair to PC Gamers like myself. Saying that at least the price of new PC Games is half sensible with decent discounts after a month or two.

[jim]

I don't see how anyone can object - They've key locked PC Games for years now and no one has complained.

That's a bit of a generalisation. More than a few have done so.

Ultimately, it's all about the customers. If they can lock the games, and everybody still buys a PS4, then Sony have pulled a blinder. However, I for one won't.

I don't really like my console all that much, and paying more than £10 for a game isn't really acceptable to me, so I will never buy brand new unless it's something I'm really, really desperate to get. If Sony forced you to always buy new then I would be waiting to see whether games dropped below that £10 price point before I considered buying a PS4. Otherwise I'd have an expensive lump of a console with no games.

Or of course, I'd buy an Xbox instead.

[watercooled]

we'll be paying for ammo in shooters.

http://forums.hexus.net/general-gami...d-gouging.html

[Scribe]

I don't see how anyone can object - They've key locked PC Games for years now and no one has complained. To do so now would be completely unfair to PC Gamers like myself. Saying that at least the price of new PC Games is half sensible with decent discounts after a month or two.

The amount of friends I've had who just gave up on buying games and download illegally because of the frustration of game locking is not insignificant. Having said this, I agree that PC game prices are much more reasonable, though they seem to be creeping up again lately.

If this is a moral fight, Sony's more than welcome to drop its game prices and impose a locking system, keeping prices up, however, there's only so much money in any one person's pocket to spare on entertainment.

[crossy]

http://forums.hexus.net/general-gami...d-gouging.html

Interesting thread, although I've got to say that I don't mind too much for paying for "optional" items - e.g. MP maps, SP extra missions. However, if they start doing "pay for essentials" then I'm just going to "flip them the bird" and avoid their titles. My feeling is that if I've already paid for a game then I don't see why I should have to pay again merely to be able to use the game fully.

E.g. I'm playing through AC:Revelations at the moment, and I'd be content to pony up a small amount to get the SP Rhodes den that you can only get by playing all the Rhodes MP maps - mainly because I've got zero interesting in playing AC online. On the other hand I wouldn't be happy to pay for new bomb components.

Free-to-play stuff is a different ball game - you've got to make the money back somehow, so pay-for-content is okay there. So DrawSomething's punting of colour packs is fine by me.

[watercooled]

I see your point, and I could say a similar thing (along with many others I rekon) about Mass Effect 3, i.e. not have to spam MP to get a less crappy ending. Not sure I'd want to pay, but forcing online is just bad in every way possible.