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Read more.NVIDIA's latest gets a WindForce makeover.
Let's note that the ASUS 670 this was tested against costs not a penny more but nearly £48 more.
Just because it isn't factory overclocked doesn't mean it isn't considerably better than the cheap 670s from other manufacturers.
Also the price difference would be more like £68 if you bought the 660 Ti from Ebuyer, Aria or Dabs.
Mind you I am pretty sure Scan will drop their prices for the 660 Ti before long.
Disappointing price.
It'd be interesting to see the bang4buck metric for this vs the other cards.
Join the HEXUS Folding @ home team
Showdown really needs dropping.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
The cheapest 660 Ti's are going for around £240 and the cheapest 670's are nearly £290. £50 is more than a penny. Fair enough these are for reference cards and not OC models, but the article still fails to address this situation.
Here is an average performance comparison of the competing cards done by a German website.
Over 10 reviews from websites like Anandtech and Toms Hardware were used for the 1920X1080 results.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 22-08-2012 at 11:34 AM.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
So what?? You could make the same argument with other games too which performed much worse on AMD cards for yonks,and through driver updates performance have got gradually better. I see no one saying lets drop game "A" or "B" since AMD could not get better performance in the game. It is up to AMD to improve performance themselves,just like Nvidia have to do so themselves.
This is what Hexus said before of the game:
"The benchmark results are so heavily favoured toward AMD cards that NVIDIA actively encourages media not to use DiRT Showdown as a benchmark. It's hard to tell whether this is a result of an in-game issue or a driver problem, but one thing's for certain, if you want to be playing DiRT Showdown with Ultra quality, you'll be wanting a Radeon GPU."
Instead of Nvidia whinging,perhaps improve their drivers then?? They have no issue pushing massively favourable games like the LP series or even favourable settings too,so IMHO its even stevens.
There are loads of reviews which have lots of very Nvidia friendly titles and the moment ONE very AMD friendly title is used,its heresy. DiRT 3 through driver updates ended up running much better on Nvidia cards eventually too,so one or two driver updates may solve the performance problem.
Moreover,if you don't play the DiRT series,you could just ignore the result anyway.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 22-08-2012 at 12:08 PM.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
You could argue,the same for Nvidia,as they probably do the same with their developer relations. An example could be the original Crysis,although Warhead did improve performance on AMD cards.
It does make me a tad worried for AMD though,as the UE4 engine seems to be running on Nvidia hardware ATM,so I am hoping AMD is working closely with Epic too,otherwise it is not going to be pretty,as UE3 is being used extensively.
Depending on how they weighted the averages, it may not be a very fair comparison, for example Fermi does really well with BF, and GCN with Dirt, but the architectures trade blows in other games and there's generally not much in it. Unless every review site they used reviewed every game on both cards and they normalised the results, the above reasons could make cards look much better or worse than they really are. Dropping games because they perform poorly on a given card obviously skews results too.
That's nothing unusual, there are loads of Nvidia sponsored titles, and lots of them are used by reviewers, including the Batman and Crysis series.
@CAT: I imagine the next gen consoles will be interested in UE4, and it's highly likely they'll be using AMD GPUs so I imagine there's a fair amount of co-operation to get it running efficiently.
Forgot about the consoles!!Oops!!
Most reviews from what I've seen are custom 660ti's (much like what we saw with 460s) does that average of 10 reviews use stock cards or custom OC models?
Both teams will abuse benchmarks by having special 'tweaks' in their drivers; I am sure.
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