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    News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Also an exclusive trio of specially designed touch covers will be available.
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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    So, unless I misread that, Japan gets a version of Office included free, permanently. We get a £20 discount of Office 365 which, first, we're still asked to pay for, and second, asked to pay again, every year.

    Gee thanks, MS. Don't do us any more favours, will you?

    Me = underwhelmed.

    Oh, and I wonder is this is "free" in the sense that BMW tried to sell me a new version of my car a few years back, telling me that air conditioning was now "free" .... but that the car was £5k dearer than mine. And in that case, completely ignoring the fact that I didn't even want the air-con anyway. It stopped me buying the new car.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Office 2013 was free at launch in UK too for the RT, but only home and student, not commercial. It's nice they are giving it free for commercial too now.

    Hexus have made a boo-boo on this thou, What you're confusing here is the nomculture, which is so incredibly brilliantly helpful. It has "Home" but not "Home Premium", iirc, thats Outlook, Access and Publisher missing.

    I'm guessing this is what is going on in Japan. My question is why only let them have the 256gb one! Is it all those extended UTF-8 chars?!
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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    A cheaper and higher capacity Surface, and a Ghost in the Shell keyboard? Maybe I should import.

    Oh, wait, it's Arise. No then.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ja-jp

    Here's a link that says "Office Home & Business 2013" comes as standard.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by mtyson View Post
    http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ja-jp

    Here's a link that says "Office Home & Business 2013" comes as standard.
    Yeah, NOT the premium one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hexus
    In the UK buyers are given the option on the order page to buy Office 365 Home Premium for £60 (including a £20 discount special offer for first year).
    People are confusing this, to mean it doesn't come with office. It does, they both do.
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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    I'm sick of this crap now. I don't understand the concept of charging a particular region less than another.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Basically the version with Outlook but indeed lacking Publisher/Access.

    It's still a little bit on the expensive side (and late), but I am a little tempted to pick it up before I leave Japan.

    Does it run the apps you could get on a Windows Mobile phone? I still haven't committed to any any mobile, and I wonder if this tablet would provide a fair idea of what to expect on a Windows 8 phone.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam-McShane View Post
    I'm sick of this crap now. I don't understand the concept of charging a particular region less than another.
    Currency. The yen has depreciated a lot recently and that has made a HUGE difference. This time last year, the 256GB would have converted to over £1000!!

    And VAT (20% in the UK, 5% in Japan, though increasing to 8% next year).

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    I wonder if this tablet would provide a fair idea of what to expect on a Windows 8 phone.
    Nope.

    They share a lot of common code and programming idioms, but are different targets.

    Windows Phone 8 has far more really good quality games, than windows 8 RT.
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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Does it run the apps you could get on a Windows Mobile phone? I still haven't committed to any any mobile, and I wonder if this tablet would provide a fair idea of what to expect on a Windows 8 phone.
    Nope. WP8 are ARM-based devices (unless there's an Intel one in there now). WindowsRT (so that's the version on the "normal" Surface, not the Windows8-based Pro) is also ARM, so maybe there's some compatibility there. And if you fancy one of those RT boxes then Dell's version is available for the same prices as decent Android gear.

    If you're thinking about a Windows Phone then I'd say to "get thee to a phone store" and give it a try. I tried an HTC 8X and was impressed (although I'm sticking with my Galaxy S3). My youngest daughter switched a couple of months ago from Galaxy Mini 2 to HTC 8S and has never looked back - she says that despite the phones being about the same price, the HTC is better in every single way. She's taken to the interface very easily, so much so that dad got pestered to downgrade her PC from Linux Mint to Windows8, (and that marks her as a luddite in my book!). I've been impressed enough to consider switching to Lumia 900 series next year if the S5 isn't anything special.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    256GB... Who'd need that much storage for a tablet?

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by JSanders View Post
    256GB... Who'd need that much storage for a tablet?
    You're quite correct that 256GB is a bit on the "spacious" side for a tablet a la iPad. On the other hand the Surface Pro - at least in the docs I've seen - appears to be positioned as a portable computer in tablet form. In which case 256GB (minus the OS and app requirements remember) is probably okay for something that's replacing a basic laptop or netbook.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by JSanders View Post
    256GB... Who'd need that much storage for a tablet?
    A tablet which can have the compete Adobe Creative Suite, Autocad, and any other Windows program or indeed suite of programs installed, will need a bit more than the 16/32/64GB of an iPad.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by crossy View Post
    Nope. [...]
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Nope. [...]
    Pity, but I suspected as much. It would have been nice if there was some kind emulation to make the tablet run apps the phone apps if only to unify the applications for those going MS. Eventually I may commit to one platform, but I thought it might be neat to have an iPod Touch for the iOS, S3 for the Android, and a Windows based tablet for a couple of years to give the main players a fair shot.

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    Re: News - Japan gets 256GB Surface Pro with Office 2013 for free

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Pity, but I suspected as much. It would have been nice if there was some kind emulation to make the tablet run apps the phone apps if only to unify the applications for those going MS. Eventually I may commit to one platform, but I thought it might be neat to have an iPod Touch for the iOS, S3 for the Android, and a Windows based tablet for a couple of years to give the main players a fair shot.
    I dunno, I have the emulator, they could easily have "integrated" it somehow, but I'll be honest I think it would have been a bad idea.

    Apple only did it with the iPad because they had nothing to launch it with besides a web browser. There were no 'killer' apps. MS had Office.

    A lot of the phone apps aren't really wanted/needed on a larger tablet, having them either 'dumb scaled up' or 1:1 isn't really good either. I don't think I've ever used any on my iPad like that.

    What they need to do is offer devs the ability to have licenses across all platforms. As is on Andriod you'll end up buying the app two or three times. Once for the phone, again for the higher resolution phone and again for the tablet. Not very good for the user, and discourages brand loyalty too. Having the ability for a developer to share a license across apps would be a rather handy feature. Of course MS haven't done anything like that.
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