News - PC shipments continue decline, but graphics are on the up

[HEXUS]

AMD and Intel see an increase in GPU shipments, largely at the expense of Nvidia.

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[Roobubba]

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[Platinum]

Not looking good for Nvidia, however with them making inroads to the mobile market with there Arm chips I guess the overall business numbers don't look anywhere near as bad.

[3dcandy]

I'd have said the same a couple of months ago, but they don't appear to be getting many wins at the moment, everybody seems to be going Snapdragon!

[davesom555]

"Incidentally JPR also informs us that the average PC in 2001 had 1.2 GPUs, this figure has now climbed to 1.4."

I take it that includes discrete and integrated graphics processing units?

[davesom555]

Not looking good for Nvidia, however with them making inroads to the mobile market with there Arm chips I guess the overall business numbers don't look anywhere near as bad.

Yeah, I just don't think they offer as good value as AMD on the discrete front. Sure, they may have slightly more performant cards (eg 670 vs 7950, not in all benchmarks though), but that advantage goes away when the cards are 60 quid more for a ~5% performance increase.

The 660ti was recently selling for the same as a 7950. I bought my 7950 for 220 - the same time 660tis were that price.

[kalniel]

"Incidentally JPR also informs us that the average PC in 2001 had 1.2 GPUs, this figure has now climbed to 1.4."

I take it that includes discrete and integrated graphics processing units?

Yup.

[Mehta23]

I keep hearing that pc sales are on the decline... Any idea of how many custom builders there are? A lot right?

[Ksyruz]

I'd have said the same a couple of months ago, but they don't appear to be getting many wins at the moment, everybody seems to be going Snapdragon!

It maybe so, but I'm guessing it's due to the fact that the equal version of the snapdragon 800 on nvidia side, the tegra 4 chip is being release in the Q3 2013.

[Ulti]

I keep hearing that pc sales are on the decline... Any idea of how many custom builders there are? A lot right?

I'm just guessing here without facts but I'd imagine general PC users rarely upgrade and the introduction of tablets replaces a lot of general PC usage. I mean if you generally use your PC for web surfing, emails, work and entertainment (videos/music/casual gaming), you don't exactly need to buy a new PC every year to keep doing those things. A tablet basically replaces general web surfing and entertainment and after people buy a tablet, they would feel less inclined to spend money to buy a new PC.

For the ones that do game, they usually spend quite a lot of money in buying a high end prebuilt system or build custom if they want to get the best bang for buck. With highend prebuilts costing so much, people would rarely upgrade.

[DanceswithUnix]

It maybe so, but I'm guessing it's due to the fact that the equal version of the snapdragon 800 on nvidia side, the tegra 4 chip is being release in the Q3 2013.

My phone has a Tegra 3 in it and wow does it get hot in use. So no, you can't play games on it because the touch screen doesn't work with over gloves on.

By version 3 of a product you really expect them to have got it right.

So I think they aren't getting wins because people just don't like their product. I hope Nvidia haven't bet the farm on Tegra.

[3dcandy]

I'd just add that this years main upgrades like Nexus 7 have already gone with Snapdragon, not Tegra. Same with the S4 in some versions, and S4 Mini, HTC One, HTC One Mini - are we getting the idea yet? If Tegra 4 was such a compelling product perhaps they would have waited a little