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You can't buy it, the products it comes in struggles to keep this high performance chip cool. This mostly Intel proof of concept that it can do graphics decent.
YEA! the graphics side is usually the hottest side burning with high TDPs thought the i7 r edition is slightly faster than the A10 kaveri due to the 128mb eDRam, but I am not a fan of those slow integrated graphics, I will definately go for a GTX m series if I want a faster machine on the Go. GDDR5 is everything!Originally Posted by bluevaping
Is a rather pointless review from the point of view that its not avaialable to buy.
If it was available in retail alongside suitable itx motherboards then i would be interested in it for a SFF build.
in my latest review I`ll be reviewing a cray for compute , totally kills everything intel has ever made - don't worry you cant buy one , but it`ll look fancy
really Tarinder? you cant buy this , its BGA and $358 - yet you compare it to an APU 1/2 the price I can go and get from scan right now.
`as potent as iris pro looks` - the chip has a larger die area than an AND 7870!! I don't think intel actually make money on these , they are huge , run hot and expensive - and you cannot buy them.
The Iris Pro integrated graphics are at least on a par with AMD's finest featured in the new Kaveri APUs
again pointless - you cannot buy them , yet I can go to Bolton right now and buy an A10 7850K
why give it an ` innovation` award? AMD APU`s have been around for years! the on die esram doesn't help when you ramp up the resolution - how much did intel pay for this article??
I like the performance, but comparing it to a £125 7850k, and having this thing costing probably at least double that, and only beating the 7850k by a very small margin (which will decrease with mature driver support and mantle from AMD), plus the fact it is not even available to buy, I would say it is not worth the purpose it was built for i.e. a SFF ITX HTPC type build
Although, if performance increases even further than this when broadwell comes along I would consider getting one
I'm sorry, but comparing a chip you CANNOT buy to a mainstream CPU is ridiculous. I mean, what's the point?
"Nothing is safer than a giant snowball whipping through space...at a million miles an hour"
It adds information about performance levels, future directions of Intels arch. all sorts of things that techies like us like to read about. That's why we're on Hexus isn't it?
my first post was somewhat harsh
thank you Tarainder.
now whilst only OEM`s can buy this BGA embedded APU , it does show how Intel are improving - the cost though for the chip is a lot, you can get the 7850 + board and ram for the price of just this - heat wise its the same as AMD`s 84w part and not a lot under the 95w 7850 . a step in the right direction but intel have a lot to do - you cant throw esram at it and expect cost effective miracles
Considering how much less power the Intel CPUs consume when compared to the AMD ones,it seem the Intel IGPs are not as power efficient,even with power saving L4 cache.
It is also an embedded system against a socket system too - it just shows you how good the AMD IGPs are. On top of this the AMD IGPs are using system RAM and not L4 cache too meaning they are bandwith constrained.
If only Qimonda had not gone bankrupt - it looks Kaveri might have had a GDDR5M option.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 07-03-2014 at 10:00 AM.
To say you can't buy a 4770R is a little disingenuous, since Scan have a Gigabyte Brix system available that uses it. You can't buy it on its own, which limits your options in terms of matching it with other components - but you can buy it. Of course, from Intel's POV there's no point releasing it to the enthusiast self-build market, because CPUwise it offers nothing beyond the socketed i7s already available. And it's in the space-constrained SFF world that the improved IGP comes to the fore.
Whether AMD would choose to go BGA only for an Kaveri + DRAM cache variant we may never know (given their moves toward System in a Socket this week it seems they're leaning the other way, though!).
Don't think it's a pointles review at all - it's a glimpse at things to come at least and you can buy systems containing this CPU. It's impressive how Kaveri does in this company really - considering the cost and nature of this chip. I would far sooner build a micro PC based on a barebones Kaveri than this, as bang-for-buck wise it's no contest. Like many other users, most of the tasks I do on a machine aren't greatly impacted by the extra CPU performance. I like to be able to game on any system I own though.
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