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    News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    The research shows Nvidia's share up 13 per cent whilst AMD slipped 7 per cent.
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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Probably because Nvidia has launch a new set of cards and refreshed their mobile lineup too.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    I agree with Cat, AMD are due (maybe it's overdue?) to release some new cards and Nvidia have just released some high end cards, which have been received well. It appears like a logical movement.
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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Probably because Nvidia has launch a new set of cards and refreshed their mobile lineup too.
    These are only results to the end of Q2 - nVidia's cards are mostly after that. But then again the share hasn't changed over Q1 - they were even then, and they are still even now. The change is compared to this time last year, when AMD had released new cards I think. Lack of new cards from AMD means they didn't gain this time, compared to last year.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    I've long been an AMD user (have a Phenom 1100T and HD 7950 and used many other AMD parts previously) but they are starting to lag behind the competition a bit. Intel and Nvidia have updated their lineups recently and the AMD parts are starting to show their age. I'm not knocking the AMD parts available as mine are still serving me well but they need to bring something new to market rather than just renaming or overclocking parts.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    These are only results to the end of Q2 - nVidia's cards are mostly after that. But then again the share hasn't changed over Q1 - they were even then, and they are still even now. The change is compared to this time last year, when AMD had released new cards I think. Lack of new cards from AMD means they didn't gain this time, compared to last year.
    Nvidia had the GTX750TI and mobile variants too,which meant they probably gained shared in OEM sales too. Sadly these kind of discrete market analysis reports,don't really seem to indicate what are OEM sales and what are consumer sales.

    The main issue I see is AMD has not really put enough focus on mobile GPUs,meaning Nvidia almost has that market to themselves now and means AMD GPUs sales in that space are tied to how well their CPUs sell. AMD does have the new M295X which does look quite decent according to what we see about the new 5K iMac,but the rest of the mobile range is still based on over two year old GPUs,and Nvidia does have an advantage here. Hopefully they are only marking time until the R9 300 series is launched.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Just something else to add to the mix - wasn't it last year cryptocurrency miners were buying up every high-end card AMD could produce? The slowing market there combined with a load of them likely ending up on ebay is likely to have had some sort of impact when comparing a quarter this year to the same last year for discrete card sales. Notebook discrete and overall APU shipments increased OTOH...

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by dylanlaw79 View Post
    I've long been an AMD user (have a Phenom 1100T and HD 7950 and used many other AMD parts previously) but they are starting to lag behind the competition a bit. Intel and Nvidia have updated their lineups recently and the AMD parts are starting to show their age. I'm not knocking the AMD parts available as mine are still serving me well but they need to bring something new to market rather than just renaming or overclocking parts.
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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    The AMD GPU's seem to be following the path of the CPU's with falling some way behind in terms of performance, one advantage this usually means for consumers is that their products are cheaper compared with similar spec'd rival products, but I imagine these cheaper products mean less profit for AMD, so less money for development, so falling further behind, a vicious circle =(

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickwolf View Post
    The AMD GPU's seem to be following the path of the CPU's with falling some way behind in terms of performance, one advantage this usually means for consumers is that their products are cheaper compared with similar spec'd rival products, but I imagine these cheaper products mean less profit for AMD, so less money for development, so falling further behind, a vicious circle =(
    Interesting perception.

    AMD are very quiet about what they do inside their graphics cards, and I think it is hurting them.

    For example, the 285 takes 60% more power in Crysis3 to deliver 70% more performance than the 750ti that people rave about. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1333?vs=1130

    So are they miles behind in technology? I'm not seeing it, but if they don't tell people that the card has a revised architecture then it is reasonable for people to think it is just another re-badged 7000 series.

    Sorting the figures on Steam by percentage change, the supposedly efficient 750ti is right up there and it isn't about cost because the 970 is off to a flying start:

    http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurv...card/?sort=chg

    If it wasn't for the awful Linux drivers, I would be asking for an R9 285 for Christmas. Sadly that part AMD still aren't getting.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    How do those numbers work? Am I missing some business nonsense where tables are labelled in a really confusing way?

    Previous year Intel + AMD + Nvidia = 100%

    This year Intel + AMD + Nvidia = 123.3%

    It seems like an absolute number, not a change (that's in another column). Unless they mean people with both a discrete graphics card and an Intel HD chipset or something?

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Yeah I was thinking there are some strange numbers there myself TBH; I wasn't sure if they'd messed up the figures/labels or I was just misinterpreting some business jargon...

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    I guess it's normalised to last year.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Do readers think that the sales swing offers a fair reflection on how compelling the respective red and green team offerings have been over the last 12 months?
    I think it shows more about the changes in buying preference over the last quarter more than the previous twelve months, I may be mistaken but my gut feeling on this is that up until the GTX750Ti launch more people were buying the value oriented AMD cards, after this launch AMD sales at the bottom end started to decline and then this was accelarated when the nVidia 9xx series cards launched. However this is not based on any substantial facts and has more to do with my feelings about the discussions I've read on the forums over the time, so this opinion is purely anecdotal and carrys as much weight as licking my finger and holding it up in the air.

    When looking at the Steam Hardware & Software Survey: October 2014 this suggests there that changes in the market have decreased for nVidia or been that kind to AMD beetween the time span from May 2013 to Octorber 2014. It shows that nVidia have dropped from 52.37% to 51.56% of PCs sampled, Intel have shown an increase from 13.84% to 18.72% AMD GPUs have declined in numbers from 33.4% dropping to 29.32% which gives Intel the biggest gains over the period. I know that Steam is not the most reliable source when it comes to looking at hardware, however I feel that for me it is the most relevant source as it is looking at the segment of the market that I most readily relate to, the gamer market.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardDemon View Post
    I think it shows more about the changes in buying preference over the last quarter more than the previous twelve months
    Nope - look at the figures, they don't change in the last quarter.

    , I may be mistaken but my gut feeling on this is that up until the GTX750Ti launch more people were buying the value oriented AMD cards, after this launch AMD sales at the bottom end started to decline and then this was accelarated when the nVidia 9xx series cards launched.
    Also the 9xx series cards launched after these figures (which are only up to Q2) I think.

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    Re: News - JPR report shows Nvidia taking GPU market share from AMD

    So much for holding my finger in the air. lol

    Maybe the next report will show a bigger swing away from AMD and more people moving to nVidia.
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