Intel Skylake processors to make debut at Gamescom, early August

[HEXUS]

Gaming trade show will see official unveiling of Core i7-6700K and Core i5-6600K CPUs.

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[Bagpuss]

Meh..

£300 for the CPU
£150 for motherboard
£130 for the DDR4

..nearly £600 for something that will most likely be less than 10% faster than my current Haswell rig.


..no thanks.

[mjgr33n]

Will wait for Nvidia Pascal to come out as it will likely require a new motherboard for nvlink connector, see what motherboard supports it then

[CustardInc]

Will wait for Nvidia Pascal to come out as it will likely require a new motherboard for nvlink connector, see what motherboard supports it then

Why not just use PCIe 4.0, what benefit does this proprietary port have?

[smilertoo]

It has the benefit of making the card look really new and advanced, even though i expect it to be closer to 2x faster and nowhere the 10x nvidia claim.

[mjgr33n]

It has the benefit of making the card look really new and advanced, even though i expect it to be closer to 2x faster and nowhere the 10x nvidia claim.

LOL, probably very true, however will wait and see and see how good it is, maybe there will be a good enthusiast variant of the Intel i7 by then that is worth upgrading to.

The thing that looked really nice about the nvlink and the pascal is the idea of it being parallel to the board, so might see some interesting cooling solutions and motherboard arrangements, but only time will tell.

Nothing really worth upgrading over my Devils Canyon i7 and EVGA 980 Hydro Copper for now.

[addz17]

4 year old I5 2500k's and FX processors run the witcher 3 like butter and it was supposedly difficult to run and one of the most cpu intensive games yet. If you buy these processors at these prices for gaming alone you're wasting your money.

[kalniel]

4 year old I5 2500k's and FX processors run the witcher 3 like butter and it was supposedly difficult to run and one of the most cpu intensive games yet. If you buy these processors at these prices for gaming alone you're wasting your money.

Even older CPUs run it fine. I'm on an i7 950 which is supposedly below minimum spec!

But that said, I am looking to replace it with a skylake - seems about right time and the start of the desktop ddr4 boards.

Not interesting in nvlink though as I'm not a compute farm and I'll only be running one GPU.

[Neostar]

I wondering how this will compare to a 3770K at the moment...

[kalniel]

I wondering how this will compare to a 3770K at the moment...

Probably roughly 21% better.

[gingerninja7]

I wonder if Intel will go back to using fluxless solder, for the K variants at least... As transistors get smaller, it surely makes sense to have as efficient thermal dissipation as possible, to make up for the density increase?

[watercooled]

If you're expecting NV Link to show up on x86 desktop platforms you'll probably be disappointed, not that it makes much difference anyway; it's very rare a GPU will be bus-bottlenecked.

For NV Link to be implemented it would either have to work via PCIe anyway, or they'd have to encourage their two biggest competitors, AMD and Intel, to integrate some technology only beneficial to Nvidia on their CPUs. Likely? I think not.

NV Link is something for the HPC space with POWER ISA, not desktop graphics. And in terms of application, it's more analogous to AMD's HyperTransport or Intel's Quick Path Interconnect.

[kompukare]

Probably roughly 21% better.

If running at the same frequency...

That is, IPC has gone up each generation but maximum clocks have regressed.

So far Computerbase is the only Broadwell overclock review I have seen:
http://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/i...-5775c-test/5/
The only reached 4.1GHz although Intel seem to think 4.2GHz should be possible.

Not 100% accurate figures, but a rough estimate for max (not insane) overclocks seems to be roughly like this:
Sandy Bridge = 4.7-4.8
Ivy Bridge = 4.5-4.6
Haswell = 4.3-4.4
Broadwell = 4.1-4.0
Skywell = Unknown

That's roughly 5% worse each generation.
IPC increases on the other hand have been a little more than that but still, 21% from IB to Skywell might be optimistic.

[Lorcaran]

NVLink will be used in server configurations and unlikely to see on a mainstream board on early product releases. Pascal will be PCI-E for sure, too much of a risk to release a proprietary interface to the masses. You might see a specialist board that offers it.

The Pascal claims of 10x faster performance are for computational maths, so be aware that Pascal is not going to be a massive jump for gaming (based of the screenshots that have the 10x faster claim).

[kalniel]

IPC increases on the other hand have been a little more than that but still, 21% from IB to Skywell might be optimistic.

You're probably right if talking about user-overclocking, I was meaning out of the box speed.

[EvZ_2]

Question:
What processor should I buy, mainly for gaming and video editing?

5820k or wait for skylake?

Will skylake be better than 5820k or better performance for value?