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    Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    48 new CPUs cover device targets ranging from compute sticks to gaming PCs.
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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    but it's still stuck at 4ghz .. when will we see 6,7 ,8ghz from intel or amd ?
    only so much they can do even with more transistors
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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    I wonder how these chips will handle blck overclocking? they are supposedly able to handle it better than previous intel arch's because the made the pcie clock independent or run on a ratio so that system stability wont be as big of an issue. If they blck oc very well then there might not be a good reason to get the k skews at all.....

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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    Is it just me, or does the top benefit of the current CPU as 'up to 2.5x faster performance' seem like a damning indictment? 5 years. 5 years and you've only improved the performance by up to 2.5x? Yeah I get all the power saving enhancements but raw performance just isn't being pushed forward at the rate that I would expect. I guess that's the lack of proper competition with AMD being unfortunately so far behind at the moment... Not good for the consumer.

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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by flearider View Post
    but it's still stuck at 4ghz .. when will we see 6,7 ,8ghz from intel or amd ? ...
    probably never - it seems to be a fairly hard limit on silicon technologies and x86. I'm sure in theory they can go much higher, but it looks like doing so in a stable way with reasonable thermal characteristics is beyond the capabilities of current materials and manufacturing

    Quote Originally Posted by Roobubba View Post
    ... raw performance just isn't being pushed forward at the rate that I would expect. ....
    What are you expecting, exactly? Where's the demand for ever increasing raw performance coming from, particularly in consumer products? It's probably been ten years since a consumer product last needed more CPU performance. If you want raw performance, get an enthusiast platform - Haswell E is right there waiting for you with cutting edge everything. Consumer products are about meeting the needs of consumers - and raw performance is not something CPUs are lacking any more...

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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    It seems as if the Tick - Tock ideal has taken a hit. Most of the reviews i have read do not indicate a substantive performance increase. As for what i am expecting, it is something with more power to entice me to upgrade. Few consumers need all this real power but it sure is nice for when we do.

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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Where's the demand for ever increasing raw performance coming from, particularly in consumer products? It's probably been ten years since a consumer product last needed more CPU performance. If you want raw performance, get an enthusiast platform - Haswell E is right there waiting for you with cutting edge everything. Consumer products are about meeting the needs of consumers - and raw performance is not something CPUs are lacking any more...
    Totally agree, although just because there's no need to go faster doesn't mean we don't want to.

    Cars don't need to go over the speed limit but we still have cars that can go more than twice that speed, I didn't need to eat that last jam doughnut but I just couldn't help it, I'm a greedy pig.

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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    I suspect like a lot of people I'm waiting for Skylake-U (or whatever the one with Iris is) so I can get a new laptop. Guess that's going to be January. That and for the m-ITX motherboards to start coming out thick and fast so I can upgrade my desktop as well.

    Saying that, I'm tempted to get a Haswell-E system. Mature, reliable and fast. Most of the things I do day to day are CPU bound rather than IO bound so DDR4 isn't much of a draw.

    Quote Originally Posted by jm101 View Post
    It seems as if the Tick - Tock ideal has taken a hit. Most of the reviews i have read do not indicate a substantive performance increase. As for what i am expecting, it is something with more power to entice me to upgrade. Few consumers need all this real power but it sure is nice for when we do.
    Skylake has a lot of very fancy power management options, it's mostly aimed at portables. Nice to have a bit of performance over Haswell, but I don't think that was their primary objective here.

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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    Who cares - if the ripoff standard retailer prices of the Core i5 6600K and Core i7 6700K are anything to go by,they can keep them.

    The Core i7 6700K is just overpriced especially since the Core i7 5820K has dropped in price too.

    Its the smallest quad core die Intel has ever made outside of Atom. Yet they are the most expensive consumer socket base Core i7 and Core i5 chips ever sold.

    Its 122.4mm2:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9505/s...ckage-analysis



    My old Sandy Bridge Core i3 was larger and was £90.

    The desktop Haswell Core i3 chips are salvaged from the quad core dies and are nearly 50% LARGER!!

    With the Core i5 6600K being £200ish,you can see the lower end Core i5 prices creeping up again and so will the Core i3 prices too.

    Got to make more money,you know,so they can subsidise their Atom foray and the billions they spent so far on it.

    Yet,since its the LATEST,LEETEST,FANTASTIBLE RELEASE,people will pay beyond the odds for them,and then we all up being screwed over. Yet there will be other alternatives from Intel which are better value too.

    I just feel the desktop DIY segment has become a good ol' cash cow for companies.
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    Re: Intel launches Skylake processor family at IFA 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiternoise View Post
    Skylake has a lot of very fancy power management options, it's mostly aimed at portables. Nice to have a bit of performance over Haswell, but I don't think that was their primary objective here.
    I don't think performance has been Intel's primary objective for a good few years now, like scaryjim said, It's probably been years since a consumer product last needed more CPU performance, Intel has new dragons to slay these days.

    I previously had hopes that Skylake would've changed that, sadly I feel like a kid that was hoping for Call of Battlefield 8 on Christmas day only to discover that game shaped present under the Christmas tree was a book on the history of the plantagenets, now I have to wait until my birthday and hope AMD brings me what I want in a parcel with ZEN core written on it.

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