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Gotta love those prices....
Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!
I was convinced that these new CPUs would be expensive, featureless and disappointing. But a 6c/12t chip with quad channel memory and 28 lanes for $390? I mean, it's the *only* one that catches my eye but that's fairly decent! Someone could make a case for the 8 core too I suppose, though it's still way above R7 1700(x) in price.
Still sort of expect all of these to run hot and use a lot of power.
$600 for 8C/16T? Seems extravagant when you can get the same C/T from AMD at just over half the price. The higher clock speeds are going to make up a lot of the thread count and efficiency difference, but I know where my money would be going...
Anyway, AMD have their Threadripper pricing targets now. Rumours were for AMD's cheapest 16C/32T chip to be priced at $849. If that's true, Intel's pricing is going to look kind of silly again.
Well you say that, but then take the power into account on the Intel i7-7800X 6/12 140W compared to the R7 1700X 8/16 using 95W or the R7 1700 8/16 using 65W and I'm not sure the efficiency is anywhere close to where it needs to be.Originally Posted by scaryjim
Anyway, at those price points from Intel I'm definitely far more inclined to build an AMD system when I upgrade. The difference in price for what you're getting simply isn't justifiable from where I'm looking at it.
Currently I'm more interested in PCIe lanes. Got a 5930K at the moment so won't be changing any time soon. A 2014 rig won't be due an upgrade until 2019-2020.
If I was buying for myself now, it'd be a threadripper.
Still don't think there's a compelling reason to upgrade from my 4790K due to it's relative IPC performance, lack of multi-core support in games, etc... more than 4 cores per application... let me know if I'm wrong :-)
16 lanes ? So any motherboard you buy is going to be HEAVILY crippled right off the bad. Ridiculous.
It's just a 7700K with a speed bump, it's on a different socket to the i9 chips
IIRC it's LGA2066 which is the same socket as the i9 chips (X299 chipset).It's just a 7700K with a speed bump, it's on a different socket to the i9 chips
They're all on the same socket. And because of the reduced lanes, the boards are gonna be useless to enthusiasts. Single GPU tops, maybe 1 M.2 device with limited SATA and USB, it's ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense to buy over the 7700K as the boards for that have all the available features actually available.
I swear to God, I feel like I wrote the script to this episode. Literally everything he says is what has been doing my head in over the core i9 platform.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE (Linus Tech Tips talking about his gripes with the i9/X99 platforms)
I can't shake the feeling that 18 core processor is essentially vapourware considering it's only supposed to be available in October. Intel really seems to have been caught with its proverbial pants down by Ryzen and by extension Threadripper.
Brilliant street walking rant. Valid points being made as well.
But the heat... If I get this, my 'silent' number crunching system will become a noisy toaster! I think from a cost, power requirements and thermal point of view, AMD may win this round. I mean, the top of the line i9 will cost £2000. The mobo another £300 (being generous here). Now, it'll suck up an easy 500W at the wall.
Threadripper is more than likely (if I read the interweb right) have two Ryzen chips in one package, presumably either binned or have lower clocks for better thermals, so we are looking at 150W?
So, IF Threadripper comes in at £1000 with £300 for the mobo, I'll save £1000 straight off. Couple that with at least 50W saving on the power draw from the wall, over a year, you'll save 400kW, which probably equates to ~£40 saving in power.
Even with the lower performance, and core count, I'd still go with the AMD setup, purely because of the beancounters (and the wife!)
They're not on the same socket because they don't share memory channels. They share PCI lanes with the 7700K, and the first two characters are identical to chips on the small socket. It's just a refresh of the current small socket chips, that's the easiest option for intel to put out (rather than entirely custom motherboards for literally two chips) and makes the most sense competitively (jack up the clocks as high as it'll suffer to maximise the performance difference at 128x128)
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