AMD Radeon RX Vega 3DMark 11 scores show good progress

[HEXUS]

Over three months since first surfacing the '687F:C1' has got 15 per cent faster.

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[Gunbuster]

Tile based rendering was absent in FE's drivers that might account for some of that.

[shaithis]

Really hoping their high-end card doesn't release with less performance than 3 cards nVidia that have had out for a while.....

[Biscuit]

Really hoping their high-end card doesn't release with less performance than 3 cards nVidia that have had out for a while.....

Seems fairly likely at this point.

Cant imagine Nvidia will hang around too long between RX Vega release and GTX1180 release (or whatever they call it). The only hope IMO, is that the architecture with HBM2 is strong enough to build from.

[GinoLatino]

I just hope the TDP ins't around 300W... that would be a deal breaker to me.

[Tabbykatze]

Fingers crossed this isn't the RX*80/RX*90 else that's going to really suck. Lets hope that this is the RX*60 xD

[Percy1983]

To be honest if its priced correctly for the performance I am happy, you don't need the fastest card to be the best value card.

[Gunbuster]

At least if its higher TDP, we might be able to buy one, instead of the miners.

[SkywalkerLuke]

I've been saving my pennies and can't wait to get my hands on a brand new Vega card. I sincerely hope the wait has been worth it...

[CAPTAIN_ALLCAPS]

Not great for a card this big, hot, or late, but it does at least avoid disaster territory.

However I have to wonder if small Vega can justify the increased cost of manufacture vs the Xbox Scorpio gpu in desktop trim as an RX590 (or as it is otherwise known what the RX580 should have been).

[Iota]

To be honest if its priced correctly for the performance I am happy, you don't need the fastest card to be the best value card.

Pretty much this, Nvidia has gone down the same route as Intel in charging whatever it feels like it can justify, hopefully AMD will put the cat amongst the pigeons in the GPU market as well. Doesn't have to be the fastest, just priced right.

[Andy14]

Come on... It's July... And still no Vega cards. Nvidia must be crying tears of laughter as this unfolds.

And the benchmarks look terrible - considering these are launched over a year after the 10 series Pascal cards. Nvidia can now just hold 11 series in the wings until Vega is finally available and then crush it.

[scaryjim]

My big worry for Vega is that it was trumpeted as having improved IPC but the benchmarks only show at best a linear increase from Fiji based on clock speeds. Clock Fiji up an extra 50% and it should perform just ahead of a GTX 1080.

I also can't help but wonder what happened to the rumoured larger Vega 11 GPU - that seems to have vanished without a trace.

At the minute Vega's just got such a big question mark over it. It's a 300W TDP part, it's apparently no faster than a GTX 1080, it's late due to delays in supply of HBM2, it looks behind on optimisation in general ... it's really not filling anyone with confidence that AMD can get their GPU game back on track - which feels like an odd thing to say after so many years of AMD having superior GPUs and being way off the pace in CPUs...!

I can't help thinking that they're being process hobbled somehow - there was so much big talk about step changes in power efficiency, increased performance, IPC boosts, etc. and what we've seen have been incremental improvements in performance with minor reductions in TDP, as well as almost every design having to be run on the ragged edge of their capabilities to hit acceptable performance targets.... in fact the whole thing feels a bit like the GTX 480 release, where nvidia simply couldn't fab the design and have it run as they intended.

Ah well, just another 3 weeks of speculation and confusion to go...

[mapesdhs]

... Nvidia has gone down the same route as Intel in charging whatever it feels like it can justify, ...

NVIDIA doesn't have to justify anything, nobody's forcing consumers to buy these cards. If NVIDIA can sell whatever it can produce at higher prices, then why shouldn't it? What you really mean is, people don't like the fact they can't afford them, in which case if AMD can step in and indeed sell something just as good or better for less, then that's great, that's competition, but it's wrong to think NVIDIA is trying to "justify" something. If a product was literally too expensive then it wouldn't sell. Likewise, personally I think Intel's pricing strategy sucks, but if there are people willing to buy them, that's just life. One can only wish the buying public were better educated, and do our best to help in that process. It doesn't help though that tech sites have been far too kind to Intel for a long time. Scorn was heaped after Intel started messing about with poor TIM with IB, and restricting PCIe lanes, but since then barely a word is said. The mess that is X299 is the result.

If something costs too much (for whatever reason), then don't buy it.

I mean heck, there was a time one company criticised me for selling something too cheap! It's a funny old world.

[scaryjim]

... I mean heck, there was a time one company criticised me for selling something too cheap! It's a funny old world.

Indeed - I've known people deliberately quote high because they didn't really want the work and then get it because they were the most expensive. People associate high prices with quality, whether that association is deserved or not.

AMD's issue is that if they price too low people won't buy them because their prices are low (people don't want to be associated with budget things), but if they price too high they'll get slated by enthusiasts for trying to milk a cash cow, or not being as good value. Hitting that sweet spot is incredibly hard...

[GamerGuru7]

I'm just glad that it's finally coming out just because it'll start creating some competition again. Nvidia have had total control over the market for higher end GPUs for a while now. Hopefully we'll see some competitive prices too