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    Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    Alexa smarts help elevate 1080p camera’s attractiveness, given rather ordinary specs.
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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    Seven months to late, a security camera that uploads to the cloud and integrates a voice assistance is anything but secure IMO.

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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    Nope, nope, nope.
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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    I've no need for an internal camera so isn;t much interest to me, but I know the nest equivalent is rather popular and people do seem to like the indoor cameras for homes with pets etc so I see the appeal.

    The amazon key idea is kind of OK in principle, but in the UK particularly where delivery drivers often earn less than minimum wage by the time all costs are taken into account...I wouldn't trust that system at all! I have a smart front door lock already, on the basis that its simple to pick the majority of UK locks, particularly the common Yale or "euro cylinder" ones regardless of whether it's multi-point or not, so it's no less secure..but thats different from letting an under paid delivery driver into your home!

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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    And here was me thinking Alexa (and Cortana, etc) were intrusive enough when Amazon manage to take it to a whole new level.

    No, just no. Not now, not ever.

    Each to his/her own, I guess, and no doubt some people will love it, but for me, hell will freeze over first. So as far as my home is concerned, and I mean this quite literally, over my dead body. If some kind soul installed it for me, completely free, I will immediately reconfigure it with a club hammer.

    No, no, no and evermore, bleep no.

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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    As with others here, this is a "no chance in hell" for me.

    I would also imagine (I know absolutely nothing about how insurers actually think, so this is merely a guess) that despite the camera functionality, an insurer would be more likely to frown upon such a setup.

    It seems to me that it's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, or is such an insignificant problem that the risks are way too high for the possible few who do consider it to be one.

    EDIT: For me, the same also applies to smart locks in general.
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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    I've no need for an internal camera so isn;t much interest to me, but I know the nest equivalent is rather popular and people do seem to like the indoor cameras for homes with pets etc so I see the appeal.

    The amazon key idea is kind of OK in principle, but in the UK particularly where delivery drivers often earn less than minimum wage by the time all costs are taken into account...I wouldn't trust that system at all! I have a smart front door lock already, on the basis that its simple to pick the majority of UK locks, particularly the common Yale or "euro cylinder" ones regardless of whether it's multi-point or not, so it's no less secure..but thats different from letting an under paid delivery driver into your home!
    A smart lock is the same as this, a way unto your home that's accessible (and therefore hackable,) over the Internet.

    If anything amazon's solution is likely to be more secure than one by say Yale or Chubb as Amazon are more likely to have a clue about Internet security.

    That said, no smart lock of any sort is going on my house. There's little I can do about someone standing on my doorstep & picking the lock if they're so skilled but I'll be damned if I let them do it from anywhere in the world.

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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    From memory, many insurers will reject and theft claim where there is no firm evidence as to how and where an intruder broke in. In the absence of forcible entry, the default position is negligence on the part of the insured, who must have left a door, window, etc, unlocked and therefore insecure.

    It therefore probably matters not whether an intruder was let in to deliver a parcel, climbed through an open window, walked in via an unattended open door or found a key under the rock where you customarily hide it. For that matter, giving a trusted neighbour a key so they cwn water plants and move mail while you're on holiday might be enough, so if you do it, don't tell the insurer.

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    Re: Amazon announces Cloud Cam, a security camera with Alexa

    Indoors, pretty useless. Outdoors on the other hand, could be handy. Unfortunately I don't think these cameras are meant for outdoors.

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