AMD, Google, and Microsoft share CPU flaw perspectives

[HEXUS]

Last night Intel sought to deflect sole liability for the security issues. Was it correct?

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[Tabbykatze]

Can you include the note about the patch negatively affecting AV products leading to crashes? Microsoft put that out just now: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4072699/important-information-regarding-the-windows-security-updates-released

[kalniel]

Can you include the note about the patch negatively affecting AV products leading to crashes? Microsoft put that out just now: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...dates-released

That seems to imply they've added a check now so you can't install the patch unless your AV checks out as OK.

[Tabbykatze]

That seems to imply they've added a check now so you can't install the patch unless your AV checks out as OK.

Yes, it pretty much does, but it's good to make sure people are aware, just notified all of our AV Customers

[Sumanji]

Sigh... this is going to get very, very messy

Question - are the latest Intel CPUs still affected by this bug? i.e. the 8xxx and i-9 7xxx series.

Cheers,

Su

[spacein_vader]

Sigh... this is going to get very, very messy

Question - are the latest Intel CPUs still affected by this bug? i.e. the 8xxx and i-9 7xxx series.

Cheers,

Su

Yes they are.

[Tabbykatze]

Sigh... this is going to get very, very messy

Question - are the latest Intel CPUs still affected by this bug? i.e. the 8xxx and i-9 7xxx series.

Cheers,

Su

They are but the performance impact is less than on their predecessors.

[lon3wolf2002]

Be interesting how AMD/Intel benchmarks work out after the patching.

[kalniel]

For those with the latest windows 10 (creators update) you're probably going to want KB4056892
http://www.catalog.update.microsoft....px?q=KB4056892

[OilSheikh]

Look at it this way guys. Intel will have to sell the new chips and chipset motherboards at a very low price. Good times ahead!

[msroadkill612]

Intel are airily dismissing performance hit as a trifle, but in recent years new products from them have boasted minimal improvements over 3 yo predecessors.

Anything remotely resembling a 30% hit is a giant step back.

[Tunnah]

A reddit user mentioned how this has probably been known, used, and abused by the intelligence community for years. It's why it went unpatched and unannounced; it's an absolute goldmine of an opportunity to take action against an enemy state. And it makes sense too, there's no way Intel didn't know about this from the get-go.

[Lanky123]

A reddit user mentioned how this has probably been known, used, and abused by the intelligence community for years. It's why it went unpatched and unannounced; it's an absolute goldmine of an opportunity to take action against an enemy state. And it makes sense too, there's no way Intel didn't know about this from the get-go.

If these vulnerabilities were being routinely exploited by intelligence agencies I would have expected some of the code/documents wikileaks published to point in that direction...

[Phage]

Do we have a list of compatible AV ?
Whilst I appreciate that they have built in a checker, I don't want to run the risk of killing my system...

[Mr_Jon]

Going off-topic, but from the MS link in the article: "Microsoft recommends all customers protect their devices by running a supported anti-virus program". I thought they'd stopped recommending that recently with w10, and claiming defender was enough?

[scaryjim]

... I thought they'd stopped recommending that recently with w10, and claiming defender was enough?

Defender *is* a supported anti-virus program, but it's not the only supported anti-virus program. If you run a 3rd party anti-virus, Defender disables itself: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-compatibility