Five AMD Navi variants spotted passing S.Korea certification

[HEXUS]

A hint that we will see much more than just a single Radeon RX 5700 at E3 shortly.

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[cptwhite_uk]

ATI Technologies, they still refer to ATI internally?

[Tabbykatze]

ATI Technologies, they still refer to ATI internally?

Don't they still call it the ATI technologies division internally under the Radeon Group?

[philehidiot]

Just a thought... I bet Hexus already knows all this stuff but is under an NDA, so they can release leaks and "speculate" but it's all pretend speculation and a game as they know what's happening anyway...

Possible? Likely?

[KultiVator]

Just a thought... I bet Hexus already knows all this stuff but is under an NDA, so they can release leaks and "speculate" but it's all pretend speculation and a game as they know what's happening anyway...

Possible? Likely?

Suspect not... seems AMD has managed to keep everything pretty quiet around the new GPU releases, other than what they've chosen to tease us with.

E3 (next week) will probably be the first chance for the press and tech sites to get a first look at more details and possibly get their hands on product.

[Xlucine]

Just a thought... I bet Hexus already knows all this stuff but is under an NDA, so they can release leaks and "speculate" but it's all pretend speculation and a game as they know what's happening anyway...

Possible? Likely?

If AMD had big stories they wanted the press to report on then there could be NDAs (like just before the launch, for reviews, or if they were seeding info for a deep dive into the architecture). That'd be unlikely this far out from the launch

[Tabbykatze]

AMD has always suffered from over hype accusations so if there is no information leakage, hype is created from people themselves not by the company and can be exonerated.

I'm both very interested and very uninterested in Navi. If it is yet another 1080 competitor then I'm just bored.

I need to know more about what makes RDNA special, then i can ignore raw benchmarks a little bit

[Irien]

@Tabbykatze - What *should* make Navi/RDNA special is the value proposition - 1080 competitor for RX480 type pricing. The problem is, AMD have started to believe their own hype and pushed prices up (see Radeon VII, RX590, CPU pricing). It looks like RX5700 will follow the same course, so rather than delivering amazing peformance for 200-250, it'll be 300-400 type prices.

I'd like to see AMD be truly disruptive again, as they have done so many times in the past, but I keep feeling "priced out" of their "better value than the competitor" products! So, I soldier on with perfectly good stuff from a couple (or more) of years back which still powers through everything. Grr!

Edit - note, I'm not averse to AMD making a tidy profit - goodness knows they need to! But, they're at their best when they're disruptive, rather than just matching competitors. Take Radeon VII - at the launch price it was competative (sort of) but largely uninteresting. At 100-150ukp cheaper, it'd have really mixed things up. Obviously 16GB HBM was the problem there, but...

[kalniel]

Don't you think that if they were truly disruptive on price (which is the only way they can be at the moment), nVidia would just match and they'd be in exactly the same situation but just losing money?

[Irien]

@kalniel That's certainly one possibility. But 7nm should, in theory, give them an advantage in that regard (smaller chips, cheaper to fab, supposedly). It's no secret that graphics card costs are at an all-time high (well, last year was worse), and the only way back down is via competition.

I'm thinking back to when nvidia last pushed prices sky-high in the GTX 8800 era. AMD burst the bubble with the HD 3870 (I think) at roughly half the price. GPU prices became more affordable, but have drifted up year on year ever since, as stock of previous gen cards clogs the channel, and new models are priced higher to compensate.

[persimmon]

Launch prices are always higher than settled prices 3 months down the line.. Its just real rich gravy they're dipping their bread into.. v much like Nvido and rtx launch prices. Atleast two models of both cards , budget and premium ?

[Xlucine]

@kalniel That's certainly one possibility. But 7nm should, in theory, give them an advantage in that regard (smaller chips, cheaper to fab, supposedly). It's no secret that graphics card costs are at an all-time high (well, last year was worse), and the only way back down is via competition.

I'm thinking back to when nvidia last pushed prices sky-high in the GTX 8800 era. AMD burst the bubble with the HD 3870 (I think) at roughly half the price. GPU prices became more affordable, but have drifted up year on year ever since, as stock of previous gen cards clogs the channel, and new models are priced higher to compensate.

Remember the titan Z? The smackdown AMD gave it with the 295X2 (at half the price) was so epic it pretty much erased the card overnight