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    Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    But its sights appear to have been lowered compared to statements made this time last year.
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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    I have no base to this theory but I can easily see SSDs overtaking HDDs in capacity by 2026. They'll be old news by 2030.

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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

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    I have no base to this theory but I can easily see SSDs overtaking HDDs in capacity by 2026. They'll be old news by 2030.
    agreed....unless the new glass storage physics occurs. In that case, perhaps the SSD's will be dead.

    I think the issue for large capacity HDD's in 2019 is that they're just not very cheap, are they? We all know they're quite relatively quick compared to older tech spinners but they're still not... fast. And they wear out eventually too.

    I'd find it near impossible to buy a spinner above 4tb without wincing

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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    oops there is a 100 TB Nimbus SSD

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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026



    Although the 100TB by 2025 predicted by them a year ago would obviously have been better to happen, 50 is still a tasty proposition. Hopefully that won't cut in half again in next year's prediction though, as that would end up being much less ambitious.
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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    using multiple actuators - so yet more moving parts. Eg higher failure rates, this is Seagate too, the company who will happily ship a faulty item and then renegade on the warranty.

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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    I'm not a lover of Seagate and will not buy their drives since early PC days issuing faulty drives and denying it , have stayed with Western Digital as my prefered drives. SDD's I stick to Samsung in preference but prefer mechanicals for back up's as you normally get warning signs of impending failure , not so with SDD's. Admittedly I've not have one die on me yet but not been running them for years as I have with the mechanicals I have. The speed of SDD's is great but the worry of one just going Kaput without a hint bothers me a little.

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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    Speed of those glass storage physics would be limiting factor for many I guess
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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
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    I'd find it near impossible to buy a spinner above 4tb without wincing
    Agreed. It's an awful lot of data "eggs" to put in one basket .... unless RAIDed, or similar. And backed up a lot. But then when SSD capacities get to that sort of capacity (at that price point) I'll have similar reservations there. It's as much the single point of failure thing that worries me, as much as mechanical vulnerabilities.
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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    I think the issue for large capacity HDD's in 2019 is that they're just not very cheap, are they?

    I'd find it near impossible to buy a spinner above 4tb without wincing
    I bought a couple of 6TB Western Digital NAS Red drives a fortnight ago, for £195 a pop. I could've got about a third of the capacity in SSD format for the same price, and the idea was tempting, but when you're bottlnecked by a 1Gbps network, the gains are marginal at best when you only plan to backup work data and use it as a Plex server.

    I do agree though, they're not cheap, not as cheap as I expected them to be by now; I bought a 1TB Samsung Spinstar over a decade ago for £70. in today's money, £70 only gets you a 2TB, maybe 3TB. Over a decade of progress and we've only doubled the capacity for the same money.

    Some of the 12TB, 14TB and even 16TB models were truly eye-watering, and they only come with a 3-year warranty.
    Last edited by Hoonigan; 07-11-2019 at 10:39 AM.

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    Re: Seagate sets sights on releasing 50TB HAMR HDDs by 2026

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    I do agree though, they're not cheap, not as cheap as I expected them to be by now; I bought a 1TB Samsung Spinstar over a decade ago for £70. in today's money, £70 only gets you a 2TB, maybe 3TB. Over a decade of progress and we've only doubled the capacity for the same money.
    To be fair, £70 to years ago is about £100 today, and that's not taking into account over 10% depreciation in the pound since a certain referendum (making import more expensive). You can get a WD Blue for under £100 (cheapest ones go for about £90). 5TB isn't all that much for the model I've just found, though 6TB sees a pretty big jump.

    I admit I am a bit surprised that they aren't cheaper though. I've only been buying external 2.5" HD for the past decade as I haven't used a desktop, and while 10 years ago, you are paying not just a performance premium but also a price premium for those over internal 3.5" drives, but it seems like the cheapest 2.5" external 4TB drive cost about the same as the cheapest internal 4TB drive.

    I wonder if demands have peaked as far as consumer drives go. Number of people who uses TBs and TBs may be niche.

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