AMD updates the Ryzen 3 1200 with 12nm Zen+ cores

[HEXUS]

Update of the original quad-core 14nm Zen design shows up at retailers for €55.

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[3dcandy]

Great budget CPU to be fair. B450 board and an nvme boot drive with a couple of sticks of DDR4 with a discrete graphics board and they are awesome

[rave_alan]

Amd knows how to make affordable stuff.. Ssd, budget ram, simple graphic card and ok an office desktop is ready!

[spacein_vader]

Looking at one of these for my media server for transcoding duties.

[Domestic_Ginger]

Rumours are circulating of a 3100 part 4c/8t for £100 or so. Zen2 so should be bit better but for the price it should be a great price although £85 for the 1600af means its a tough decision.

[will19565]

Rumours are circulating of a 3100 part 4c/8t for £100 or so. Zen2 so should be bit better but for the price it should be a great price although £85 for the 1600af means its a tough decision.

3100 or 3300X easy.

[[GSV]Trig]

So the 1600AF was just testing the water then by the looks of it?

[DanceswithUnix]

So the 1600AF was just testing the water then by the looks of it?

I assumed it was just a sign of running out of stock of the old silicon.

[QuorTek]

sounds good for a little multi media center for the TV...

[Irien]

The lack of integrated graphics still makes these a tough sell to a non-gamer audience. Whereas a few years back you could pick up cheap GT210 or radeon 5450 cards for 20-30 pounds, there's really not much available south of 50 now, especially in stock. Many cards are hampered by very slow bus/ram, so I've had real problems sourcing affordable, well performing 2D cards for non gaming folks.

Anyone had better luck?

[DanceswithUnix]

The lack of integrated graphics still makes these a tough sell to a non-gamer audience. Whereas a few years back you could pick up cheap GT210 or radeon 5450 cards for 20-30 pounds, there's really not much available south of 50 now, especially in stock. Many cards are hampered by very slow bus/ram, so I've had real problems sourcing affordable, well performing 2D cards for non gaming folks.

Anyone had better luck?

Nope, I think you are spot on. For basic use the Athlon 3000 is pretty good value, though the way AMD seem to have quietly disabled the second HDMI port is utterly annoying for my uses. I mean, cheap office PCs can commonly want to drive twin HDMI monitors. So choose motherboards carefully so you can do one DP and one HDMI monitor if you need twin screens, but 2C4T for so little money.

[Xlucine]

The lack of integrated graphics still makes these a tough sell to a non-gamer audience. Whereas a few years back you could pick up cheap GT210 or radeon 5450 cards for 20-30 pounds, there's really not much available south of 50 now, especially in stock. Many cards are hampered by very slow bus/ram, so I've had real problems sourcing affordable, well performing 2D cards for non gaming folks.

Anyone had better luck?

Scan has GT710s for £35. That'll get you half a GT 730, I wonder how it compares to the vega 3 in the athlon?

[3dcandy]

Nope, I think you are spot on. For basic use the Athlon 3000 is pretty good value, though the way AMD seem to have quietly disabled the second HDMI port is utterly annoying for my uses. I mean, cheap office PCs can commonly want to drive twin HDMI monitors. So choose motherboards carefully so you can do one DP and one HDMI monitor if you need twin screens, but 2C4T for so little money.

One CCX on these new chips so a different direction (sort of)

[DanceswithUnix]

One CCX on these new chips so a different direction (sort of)

But what is the market for these things and would anyone buying one care about a CCX? I just made some low end office type PCs, I went Athlon and as suggested above wish I had gone 2200G (which I did on the last one we built) so it could do 2xHDMI out, but that built in graphics is a real win for a small, cheap office box.

The new 3100 seems a much better buy for gaming use compared to this.