When's the HTC Kaiser in the UK on contract?

[Funkstar]

Saw this a couple of days ago (http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index....ticle&sid=3501)

Still no price of call plan details for it though.

Still veering towards this on t-mobile at the end of the year

[badass]

I've just found out about this and its making me moist

[Dreaming]

If anybody has this phone, could they go over the GPS for me?

Does it cost to connect? Or just it get a lock and thats it? Is the software expensive? And how effective is it? My plan would be to have the phone in a breast pocket, with an earpiece going to my ear (I'm on a bike) and have read instructions. As far as I'm aware the N95 would be incapable of this because a) it's slow and unresponsive b) it doesn't really work. :s

Cheers

[Funkstar]

The GPS reciever can be used with loads of different pieces of software. It is this software that determines whether you pay for the maps outright, or per route.

TomTom 6 Taster Edition comes with the phone. This includes the full software and they choice of one or two cities of map data. Any other map data has to be purchased and downloded. Once you;ve done that, it works just like a regular TomTom. No mobile data is used (unless you are using the TomTom Plus service of course).

I don't see why it wouldn't read out route instructions over headphone or a BlueTooth hands free.

[Dreaming]

I was more concerned with it being in a pocket and not being able to 'see' the sky. But someone who had the O2 XDA Orbit, HTC 3300 I think, said it worked fine in their pocket. I assume its the same or similar technology in both.

I've never use a GPS system before you see, didn't know if it was pay-per-use. Map data I assume needs to go on a memory card, how much memory is a roadmap of England likely to use? (And cost?)

Sorry, loads of noob questions. I think I'm going to ask my friends / family to chip in £5 - £10 each for xmas which should bring it down to a more affordable price hehe. I'm a slave to consumer society, spending money I don't have on things I don't need *tuts*

edit: looking at tomtom's website, for windows mobile 5, maps of Great Britain and Northern Ireland cost £41.95, and take up 240mb. A map of western europe costs the same, but takes up 956mb. I'm not sure if tomtom includes Great Britain in Western Europe though.

[Funkstar]

Yes, the UK is included in Western Europe. Have a look here: http://www.tomtom.com/products/secti...tegory=2&Lid=1

[Dreaming]

If anyone is still interested, I went into the vodaphone shop today, it's on their system now. (though out of stock)

Is on the business side of things so not sure if personal customers can get it (too dumb to ask, me), it's free on contracts £30pcm+, and £400 just for the phone.

[Karlos007]

i wanted one of these to upgrade from my old blue angel but i couldent wait out and t-mobile offered me a tytn for £20. great fone, so i can only imagine the tytn 2 will be ROCKING

[Dreaming]

T Mobile pricing:

http://www.powerupmobile.com/tariffs-2-302.htm

Pricey :/

[MadduckUK]

i wanted one of these to upgrade from my old blue angel but i couldent wait out and t-mobile offered me a tytn for £20. great fone, so i can only imagine the tytn 2 will be ROCKING

bit of trivia: did you know that the TYTN (original) actually has GPS capabilities built into it, but HTC have permanently disabled it?

[AndyO]

T Mobile pricing:

http://www.powerupmobile.com/tariffs-2-302.htm

Pricey :/

Yeah I saw this too, gets reasonable on £35+ a month though so not all doom and gloom I guess.

Other thing is, I can't bring myself to believe these are finalised prices when T-Mobile Direct are still denying all knowledge of contract details and price brackets?!?

I've kept calling them regularly for updates and they all swear blind there's nothing further on it, despite me reading elsewhere that 24th Sep was the launch day!

Hence I'm waiting till I can buy it direct through T-Mobile, then I'll be shelling out for my SlingBox

Maybe next week I guess? Grrrrrr. Can't wait to ditch Orange. Been waiting to do so since 16th July and this is getting tiresome....

[j.o.s.h.1408]

bit of trivia: did you know that the TYTN (original) actually has GPS capabilities built into it, but HTC have permanently disabled it?

umm why did they disable it? i would of most likely got that phone had it got the internal gps has opposed to the n95 i got..


anyways does this new phone locks into a signal (gps) quicker then a N95? my upgrade is not due till april 08!!!

[Dreaming]

umm why did they disable it? i would of most likely got that phone had it got the internal gps has opposed to the n95 i got..


anyways does this new phone locks into a signal (gps) quicker then a N95? my upgrade is not due till april 08!!!

I watched a video last night, from starting the GPS app to getting a lock with about 6/7 satellites it took 8 seconds. It looks like nothing is happening and then bam. I'll try and find the video for it.

eat: orange shop man said it has been delayed twice now, from beginning sept to late sept and now to mid october - I'm tempted to buy one sim free;

£469 + £20 x 12 = £709, but I can change network at any time

t mobile sept £5 off promo:
18 mnth flext 35 + web'n'walk = £42.50 (-£5) = £37.50 over 18 months --> £675, tied into T-Mobile forever and a day though. And the phone will be about £30 on that tariff, so that's actually no better than just staying sim free, except I get a nice big data allowance that I don't with O2 (though maybe I can blag one from retentions?)

Also, with vodafone, I think I'm right in thinking you must be a business customer, with proof of a vat registry thingy.

Orange don't really do data tariffs either. *sigh*

[Funkstar]

Don't just look at a networks data allowances and charges, have a look at how they deiver that data.

T-Mobile have a full HSDPA allowing up to 1.7mbit connections. I don't know what the other networks use.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

i hope that next year i can get a free upgrade to this or else i may as wel shell out and buy the phone. i dont want no t mobile fw on it. i want an unbranded version of this amazing phone..

GPS: Wow! 8 seconds? if its has good as an actual tom tom device then im sold!!

[Funkstar]

Not only that - I don't want the tacky t-mobile pink logos on a handset like that.