Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Phones without a pointless button

  1. #1
    Senior Member Xlucine's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,160
    Thanks
    297
    Thanked
    188 times in 147 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus TUF B450M-plus
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @ 3.2 Gt/s
      • Storage:
      • Crucial P5 1TB (boot), Crucial MX500 1TB, Crucial MX100 512GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Fractal Design ION+ 560P
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10 pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H

    Phones without a pointless button

    I'm finally considering replacing my HTC 10, and I've run into a snag - why do all the decent name-brand midrangers have a google assistant button? No-one needs this - there's already a swipe action built in to summon the assistant - but they insist on including it.

    My requirements are simple:
    - decent upgrade in horsepower to last me as well as the HTC 10 has, so something like the 765
    - good photos (decent macro lens a plus)
    - stock android

    The moto g 5g + g plus and nokia 8.3 fit the bill nicely, except they both insist on that damn button! I even asked moto support and there's no way to remap it to something useful like the camera either. I'd suspect it's some new requirement for android one, but even google doesn't include this on pixels! I'm aware of the nord, and could wait to see if the U20 5g gets here, but they both have worse camera setups. It's got me seriously considering the pixel 4a just because it's got less google integration, which is mad

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,495
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    143 times in 119 posts
    • BobF64's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77-V Pro
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i7-3770K
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Corsair XMS3 PC3-12800
      • Storage:
      • Multiple HDD and SSD drives
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS DUAL-GTX1060-06G
      • PSU:
      • 750W Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Fortress FT02
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • HP ZR24w

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Go with one of the Nokias, theyre pretty good, just disable the silly Google Assistant button, its what I did.

    If its a Google One requirement, its a small price to pay to ensure you get OS updates.

  3. #3
    MCRN Tachi Ttaskmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Reading, UK
    Posts
    6,920
    Thanks
    679
    Thanked
    807 times in 669 posts
    • Ttaskmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Aorus Master X670E
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 7800X3D
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Corsair Dominator DDR5 6000MHz
      • Storage:
      • Samsung Evo 120GB and Seagate Baracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Aorus Master 4090
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 1000W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li V3000 Plus
      • Operating System:
      • Win11
      • Monitor(s):
      • Gigabyte M32U
      • Internet:
      • 900Mbps Gigaclear WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Disable, or use a button mapper app to have it use a different function.

    Personally I lament the lack of Home button on the newer Samsung phones, so if ever I upgrade I'd remap Bixby (or whatever it is) to a Home function.
    _______________________________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Tyson
    like a chihuahua urinating on a towering inferno...

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Huawei make various phones for all budgets i have a p30 pro personally and love it .

  5. #5
    Now 100% Apple free cheesemp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Near the New forest
    Posts
    2,948
    Thanks
    354
    Thanked
    255 times in 173 posts
    • cheesemp's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS TUF x570-plus
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 3600
      • Memory:
      • 16gb Corsair RGB ram
      • Storage:
      • 256Gb NVMe + 500Gb TcSunbow SDD (cheap for games only)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • RX 480 8Gb Nitro+ OC (with auto OC to above 580 speeds!)
      • PSU:
      • Cooler Master MWE 750 bronze
      • Case:
      • Gamemax f15m
      • Operating System:
      • Win 11
      • Monitor(s):
      • 32" QHD AOC Q3279VWF
      • Internet:
      • FTTC ~35Mb

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    As others have said just remap it (I think you can remap it to a camera button). Got a Nokia 7.1 I've been fairly happy with. Had some lock ups recently but improved that by pairing everything back but its a lot older spec than an 8.3.
    Trust

    Laptop : Dell Inspiron 1545 with Ryzen 5500u, 16gb and 256 NVMe, Windows 11.

  6. #6
    Laird Of The Glen jimborae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    I come from a land of plenty......not
    Posts
    3,491
    Thanks
    260
    Thanked
    370 times in 303 posts
    • jimborae's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Pro
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 9700K@4.7Ghz
      • Memory:
      • Team Group DDR-3000 32Gig
      • Storage:
      • 1x Samsung 870 Evo 500Gb SSD, 1 x WD Red 4TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte Radeon 5700XT watercooled
      • PSU:
      • XFX 850W Black Edition
      • Case:
      • Phantek Enthoo Prime
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 xDell 24"
      • Internet:
      • PlusNet 70Mb

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    OnePlus Nord (close to stock) or Pixel 4A

  7. #7
    Senior Member Xlucine's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,160
    Thanks
    297
    Thanked
    188 times in 147 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus TUF B450M-plus
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @ 3.2 Gt/s
      • Storage:
      • Crucial P5 1TB (boot), Crucial MX500 1TB, Crucial MX100 512GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Fractal Design ION+ 560P
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10 pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Quote Originally Posted by BobF64 View Post
    Go with one of the Nokias, theyre pretty good, just disable the silly Google Assistant button, its what I did.

    If its a Google One requirement, its a small price to pay to ensure you get OS updates.
    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    As others have said just remap it (I think you can remap it to a camera button). Got a Nokia 7.1 I've been fairly happy with. Had some lock ups recently but improved that by pairing everything back but its a lot older spec than an 8.3.
    Nokia let you remap it? That's good to know

    Quote Originally Posted by jimborae View Post
    OnePlus Nord (close to stock) or Pixel 4A
    The nord has clearly saved money on the camera setup, but otherwise looks decent. Pixel 4a has good cameras, but then it's only a 730 rather than a 765 or similar (with the newer & shinier ARM cores) so I'm leery about how well it'll age several years down the line

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    3,908
    Thanks
    939
    Thanked
    979 times in 724 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Disable, or use a button mapper app to have it use a different function.

    Personally I lament the lack of Home button on the newer Samsung phones, so if ever I upgrade I'd remap Bixby (or whatever it is) to a Home function.
    That.

    Though IMHO, the biggest drawback to Samsung is that Bixby is not only a useless pile of steaming .... canine effluent, but a right PITA to thoroughly disable. It's like fighting a necromancer app - the damn thing keeps reanimating.

    When, oh when, oh when will the morons at these companies get it through their overly dense, boneheaded numbskull peas-for-brains that all attempting to force garbage like Beffing Fixby on people actually achieves is to get them very, very annoyed at the arrogant jerks doing it.

    I'm seriously tempted to run a field test on my kitchen blender's supposed ability to blend a smartphone. Why? Bixby. Unfortunately, my blender just does what it says on the box, and isn't festooned with useless data-gathering dogpiles .... like some phones, and I actually want to keep the blender.



    / deep breath
    / another deeper breath
    / exit rant mode
    / feel better for that

    A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2020
    Posts
    10
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    I got a nokia 8.3 and I am very happy with it. It has a great camera and I just switched the button off.

  10. #10
    MCRN Tachi Ttaskmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Reading, UK
    Posts
    6,920
    Thanks
    679
    Thanked
    807 times in 669 posts
    • Ttaskmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Aorus Master X670E
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 7800X3D
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Corsair Dominator DDR5 6000MHz
      • Storage:
      • Samsung Evo 120GB and Seagate Baracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Aorus Master 4090
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 1000W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li V3000 Plus
      • Operating System:
      • Win11
      • Monitor(s):
      • Gigabyte M32U
      • Internet:
      • 900Mbps Gigaclear WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Though IMHO, the biggest drawback to Samsung is that Bixby is not only a useless pile of steaming .... canine effluent, but a right PITA to thoroughly disable. It's like fighting a necromancer app - the damn thing keeps reanimating.
    https://www.androidcentral.com/how-c...-disable-bixby

    Sounds pretty straightforward to me.....?
    _______________________________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Tyson
    like a chihuahua urinating on a towering inferno...

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    3,908
    Thanks
    939
    Thanked
    979 times in 724 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    https://www.androidcentral.com/how-c...-disable-bixby

    Sounds pretty straightforward to me.....?
    Only once you either find that site (or oe with similar advice) or spend ages getting more and more frustrated (as I did) trying to fix it.

    I finally killed it about 3 months ago, but I don't even remember how. What I expect is if someone like Samsung (and they're far from the only guilty party) are going to foist that kind of tripe on customers, they should either ask first, or at an absolute minimum, provide a simple-to-find option like, oh, "Disable Bixby, without forcing us paying customers, Hitchhiker's Guide style, to find their equivalent of the "Beware of the Panther" door for the planning department. And no doubt, hoping we'll give up before we do.
    A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".

  12. #12
    Senior Member Xlucine's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,160
    Thanks
    297
    Thanked
    188 times in 147 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus TUF B450M-plus
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @ 3.2 Gt/s
      • Storage:
      • Crucial P5 1TB (boot), Crucial MX500 1TB, Crucial MX100 512GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Fractal Design ION+ 560P
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10 pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    I upsold myself to an xperia 5 II - sony support were able to confirm that I can turn the assistant off when I asked (unlike motorola), and I'm enjoying the camera so far.

    It still brings up a "do you want to turn on the spyware?" popup the few times I've accidentally pressed the button, but I can live with that (and I might see if superglue will fix it in place)

  13. #13
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    33
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Value for money and long update support I would also recommend Nokia.

  14. #14
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Any way to remap the bixby button?

  15. #15
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Posts
    36
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    Google Pixel 4a would be a good price and no silly button.

  16. #16
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jan 2021
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Phones without a pointless button

    I'm on a Galaxy S9+ and Samsung did add the option to settings (under advanced features) at some point to remap the Bixby key to either another app or routine. Well, mostly... you still have to allow a double press to open Bixby.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •