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Not enough memory or, Tablet dying?
I have an old tablet. It has 2gb memory. Samsung tab A 10" (2016)
Every 20mins or so, the internet pages slow to a stop and i have to go into the settings and clear the memory as it drops down to around 400mb available. Once i clear that and the memory available goes up to around 900mb the internet is fine for a short while.
Is it because i dont haver enough memory? Is it because the tablet is dying?
I dont have many apps on tablet. I checked their usage. Very low. Browser uses the most
Is it time for a new tablet with more memory?
Teclast M40 has 6gb memory etc....https://www.teclast.com/en/zt/M40/
Anyone heard of it?
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Re: Not enough memory or, Tablet dying?
My 2GB Nvidia tablet seems a bit stuttery these days, and sometimes just stops for a few minutes. Much better since I uninstalled Teams from it, so I suspect a factory reset would get it web browsing OK again, but what use is a tablet with no apps on it?
My phone with 3GB of ram seems to be holding up way better, but I have to wonder how much time that has left.
Even with the OS not getting updated, the constant app updates seem to make things more memory hungry over time. I'm considering a tablet for my next birthday, so will be interested to see what people suggest.
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I am thinking along the lines of 6gb for memory.
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I'm sure 6GB will keep you going for a few years. I wouldn't want less than 4GB these days.
Looking at reviews, the big negative on that M40 tablet is that it isn't Wildvine authenticated so it can't show Netflix at higher than SD if you bother to sideload it. That's a pain, but sadly quite typical in a market where there just isn't a lot of volume for tablets :(
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I've noticed the Kindle Fire tablets we have have really been struggling with 2GB of memory on some modern websites.
Think a recent OS update (Android, but Amazon has their own build of it), made it so when the system runs out of memory, it just stops the website from working... this is getting really annoying. By recent, I mean a few months back! Some of my Kindle Fire's have Google Play on it, so I can use other browsers etc. Even the "best" tablet they have, Fire HD 8 plus, only has 3GB of memory. I was considering getting a 10inch version of the Fire, but with only 2GB of RAM, I don't think it's worth the cash... as the same problem will persist on that even if it has an Octa Core processor and 1920x1200 display.
Hmm... I think whatever they did to the OS, needs to be rolled back. As this is effectively making these tablets useless, and 2GB seems to be standard even to this day. I noticed what Youtube does is, when it runs out of memory it auto-refreshes the page and carries on with the video. Unfortunately not all the sites can do that.
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Originally Posted by
DanceswithUnix
I'm sure 6GB will keep you going for a few years. I wouldn't want less than 4GB these days.
Looking at reviews, the big negative on that M40 tablet is that it isn't Wildvine authenticated so it can't show Netflix at higher than SD if you bother to sideload it. That's a pain, but sadly quite typical in a market where there just isn't a lot of volume for tablets :(
Thing is, HD is not important to me on a tablet.
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Man, planned obsolescence has to be one of the most unethical business practices introduced by capitalism in the 20th century. F that noise.
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Lost4words
Thing is, HD is not important to me on a tablet.
Which is cool. My wife's tablet is like that, she reads Facebook and plays games on it so that's fine.
Mine sometimes gets plugged into a TV, so media is rather more important to me.
One thought, it looks like Google are switching to ChromeOS on tablets now. So that might be a better way forward, but I'm not sure enough to spend money yet :)
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DanceswithUnix
Which is cool. My wife's tablet is like that, she reads Facebook and plays games on it so that's fine.
Mine sometimes gets plugged into a TV, so media is rather more important to me.
One thought, it looks like Google are switching to ChromeOS on tablets now. So that might be a better way forward, but I'm not sure enough to spend money yet :)
I like to watch movies on a tablet. SD is fine for me.
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The M40 looks the better of the 'cheaper' tablets?
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Second factory Reset and load as few apps as possible.
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Anyone tried any of the cheaper Win 10 tablets?
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Lost4words
Anyone tried any of the cheaper Win 10 tablets?
My kids had them a few years ago. One was actually an Asus Transformer so should have been expensive but was on a great offer at the time. They didn't run tablet software because they weren't Android, and they didn't run Windows software well because they weren't quick. You needed to plug in a USB stick just to get Windows to update. I think in the end my son managed to get Android installed on the Asus, which made it a bit more usable, but not a success.
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Lost4words
Anyone tried any of the cheaper Win 10 tablets?
Yes - A lot are 32gb which isn't even enough to update Windows 10 to the latest feature release (You can at least just plugin a USB stick now to help - That never use to be an option with the earliest releases of Win 10.). I quite enjoyed it though even though it was fairly incapable for most tasks just because it was Windows!
I think a more modern one with 128Gb storage (maybe 64Gb at a push) and 4gb RAM would do most tablet functionality (web browsing/media consumption) however they quickly ramp up in cost once you get past 32Gb. CEX have a fair number available second hand from £50 (32gb though!).
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cheesemp
I think a more modern one with 128Gb storage (maybe 64Gb at a push) and 4gb RAM would do most tablet functionality (web browsing/media consumption) however they quickly ramp up in cost once you get past 32Gb. CEX have a fair number available second hand from £50 (32gb though!).
I believe Microsoft still do heavy discount (free?) Windows 10 to really low end hardware to avoid Netbooks coming back. No way you could make a Windows tablet for £100 when the Windows licence alone costs that much. The 32GB storage, 11.6" screen, 2GB of ram and a low end Atom CPU seem to be limits that if anyone crosses the cost suddenly jumps up. My daughter's ASUS Transformer was something like £130 for a nice little tablet with dockable keyboard included. If you bought the next model up with 4GB of ram and a bit more storage it was about £250.
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Think i will look at getting a tablet with 6gb ram. Android.
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Originally Posted by
DanceswithUnix
I believe Microsoft still do heavy discount (free?) Windows 10 to really low end hardware to avoid Netbooks coming back. No way you could make a Windows tablet for £100 when the Windows licence alone costs that much. The 32GB storage, 11.6" screen, 2GB of ram and a low end Atom CPU seem to be limits that if anyone crosses the cost suddenly jumps up. My daughter's ASUS Transformer was something like £130 for a nice little tablet with dockable keyboard included. If you bought the next model up with 4GB of ram and a bit more storage it was about £250.
Yes that was definitely the case. I think it might be changing though now. I've seen a few better spec'd ones now but only a few no name Chinese brands. I think Microsoft are getting less and less bothered by Windows licensing earnings but there are also less and less manufactures chasing the bottom end of the market - certainly no decent ones anymore. I see OP is going with Android which makes sense but just a word of warning if anyone sees my posts about cheap windows tablets - just make sure its not Windows RT! Quite a few of those kicking about at the £80~£100 mark second hand and they are worthless (stuck on the old version of Edge with no better browser options and no effective support). A good example of this is Music magpie wanting £160 for a surface 2 - https://www.musicmagpie.co.uk/store/...8-9a5b1b2a9f61 - Only the pro are full windows in these early models so this is £160 overpriced.
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Originally Posted by
cheesemp
Yes that was definitely the case. I think it might be changing though now. I've seen a few better spec'd ones now but only a few no name Chinese brands. I think Microsoft are getting less and less bothered by Windows licensing earnings but there are also less and less manufactures chasing the bottom end of the market - certainly no decent ones anymore. I see OP is going with Android which makes sense but just a word of warning if anyone sees my posts about cheap windows tablets - just make sure its not Windows RT! Quite a few of those kicking about at the £80~£100 mark second hand and they are worthless (stuck on the old version of Edge with no better browser options and no effective support). A good example of this is Music magpie wanting £160 for a surface 2 -
https://www.musicmagpie.co.uk/store/...8-9a5b1b2a9f61 - Only the pro are full windows in these early models so this is £160 overpriced.
I would go for a decent windows tablet but i dont want to spend a lot.
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Just to add my own experience, this has to be one of the most frustrating thing I've experienced regarding tablets. I don't want/need some super fancy tablet, just something to play videos or browse the web on. However, system updates invariably seem to remove that capability from the sort of budget tablets I have used.
I had some older Kindle Fire passed to me by a relative which was fine when I started using it, but a couple of years later eeevvverrryyytthiiinnggg wassss soooooooo ssslllloooooowwwwwwww. Opening applications, loading web pages, playing/pausing videos. All things which it managed perfectly fine originally. And it's not purely a case of websites getting more bloated either as many of the sites I visit haven't substantially changed. A factory reset seemed to help for a bit, but it quickly returned to treacle mode so I got rid and bought a Huawei MediaPad T3 8".
Again, while not a flagship product, it was quite fast enough originally, but over time has become increasingly frustrating to use for the same sort of basic functions like switching applications.
It's especially frustrating when the hardware still appears so immaculate and there's really no reason it couldn't manage the same tasks it managed perfectly well out of the box.
And just as an aside, I have some model or other of Samsung TV which I specifically chose to not have any smart features in the hope it would be less temperamental. However, the interface has become really, ridiculously unresponsive when it's first switched on - volume, source, EPG, etc can take many seconds to appear and navigate after button presses. A factory reset does appear to restore performance for a while but it slows down again over time. This TV has no Internet connection either so I can't even blame some sort of application updates. I do wonder if it's something to do with how storage is being accessed and a factory reset restores performance similar to those early planar TLC SSDs where performance would degrade for older files.
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watercooled
I do wonder if it's something to do with how storage is being accessed and a factory reset restores performance similar to those early planar TLC SSDs where performance would degrade for older files.
It is possible. I just did an investigation on an SD card at work which had failed in a customer's machine. It seems the flash contents had degraded. We don't know if the flash had seen any extreme temperatures or had just been left switched off for a long time but it was reading at about 1MB/s rather than the usual 80MB/s and chucking lots of bad bits mixed in with the reads so the flash controller must have been really struggling to make sense of the stored charge. The bad bits moved about on each read too. Writing a new image over the card resurrected it to full speed and consistent reads. Not that it is ever going near a customer machine again ofc. Flash is an amazing technology, but can be tricky. That wasn't some cheap card off Amazon either, that was installed at our factory and bought through proper channels.
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i'd do a factory reset, it should free up some space and remove unnecessary useless files or cache.