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    Question Ripping "Copy Controlled" CDs

    I have just received thanks to Play, "So Much For the City" by The Thrills, only to find it's copy controlled. Without drawing all over the back of the CD, is there any way to rip the tracks off this (don't want to mess about recording through a line-in either) so I can upload and play them on a NetMD player or on my PC?

    If not, the CD is going back for a refund and I'll leech the album off somewhere.

    Can't the labels see that copy protection really only serves to piss people off?

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    And the included player sits there generating thousands of page faults and using 100% of my CPU time. Well done Virgin/EMI.

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    Ok, another post . Easy CD-DA Extractor got it when it was in my Plextor burner, didn't work in my Pioneer DVD for some reason.

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    Ah.... useful to know. How olds the plextor? Maybe the copy protection only works in newer drives?

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    16x Plextor burner, couple years old.

    Pioneer was the same age. I'm thinking CD-RW drives are better at reading CDs than DVD drives are?

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    whether you can rip with a particular drive is pretty random

    though this is the reason i no longer buy CDs made afetr a certain year, I'm not running the risk of geting defective product

    (remember that copy-controlled cds are kaput of scratched whilst real Cds are not)

    of course, if there's a Compact Disc Digital Audio logo onaywhere on the cd or case you can sue EMI for false advertising (i.e. they're not legally allwoed to use the CDDA logo for an 8cm disc which bears no relationship to the CDDA spec)

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    Yeah, i've noticed CDRW's will read all the information including what is hidden, DVD drives dont always.

    First noticed this when using CloneCD, as it would list what your drives can read and cant read, my CDRW would read all types but the DVD would only read half of that!

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    Also allows for backup of copy protected audio cd in its most recent release

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    Originally posted by directhex

    of course, if there's a Compact Disc Digital Audio logo onaywhere on the cd or case you can sue EMI for false advertising (i.e. they're not legally allwoed to use the CDDA logo for an 8cm disc which bears no relationship to the CDDA spec)
    How's that then?
    The method of extracting the audio from any CD is digital, whether it's played in a standalone CD player or computer. It's just decoded to analog so us humans can hear it

    And I agree about it being utterly pointless. Most people who buy CDs nowadays rip them for playback on computers/MP3 players/Minidisc players surely...? And they wonder why more and more people just download the music from the internet
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    CDDA relates to a particular spec. Just as you can't put the Dolby Digital logo on a large steak & kidney pie, you can't but the CDDA logo on anything that doesn't meet the CDDA spec - and that includes certain information on how the data is laid out on the CD which none of the copy protection mechanisms use. For one thing they write garbage to a CD's Error Correction sectors, so anything that checks them (a PC, Walkman or car stereo) is likely to fail to read it.

    a "copy protected" cd is NOT a cd, and anybody selling one as such is lying. worth remembering if a shop is arsey about taking back a copy protected disc.

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    Damn are you telling me then that last week I paid £50 for a normal stereo Steak and Kidney Pie and I thought it was Surround sound, trading standards will be called
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    Does the shift trick not work? Or is it the wrong protection method?
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    the shift trick is for SunnComm MediaMax CD3 protection, which isn't particularly common

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex
    the shift trick is for SunnComm MediaMax CD3 protection, which isn't particularly common
    Ah right - so it's only me that gets all the sunncomm protected discs then, lol.
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