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    Help, please help...it's driving me nuts.

    So thought I'd do the smart thing and go for standards compliance (after years spent in the 'if MS can ignore standards, why can't I?' camp), but can't figure out where I'm going wrong.

    Why on earth is the validator having problems with my meta tags. And if I remove the tags, it just has a problem with other stuff down the page, which means it's a problem further up the page, but why isn't it flagging it?

    Also, everything displays perfectly well on my ff & ie browsers, at least on the desktop, and on Mac safari. But load it up on the laptop and it's off the screen. Could I get people to oepn it up in their browsers and tell me what's happening at their end?

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    www.ninesquare.co.uk

    (and yes, it's a web development site, and yes it's ironic that it doesn't work properly. But there's a story behind it somewhere)

    P.S. any feedback on layout and design would be appreciated too
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    Well, the layout is fine, clean and tidy in my eyes, not sure about the wood background image though.

    To me it looks like your failing validation as the document type you have specified does not like your like the way your using meta tags,

    Looking at your site it looks like your trying to do something clever almost like an include file with the meta tags, and my guess would be you've not speficied a doc or conflicting type on that include file ???

    you've also got a closing head tag for one which is not open.

    Try it without the funky meta stuff, easier to clean up.

    Serious questions, not meant to be derogatory

    1.) is this "your business"
    2.) Why does a web design business need someone else to do their design ?
    3.) by posting on here with the real url / business name if anyone googled for it, you'd most likley get this thread showing a webdesign company asking questions/getting someone else to design their site - possible best to change the url / for testing to avoid this.
    It is Inevitable.....


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    ok I know very little about website implementation so take with a pinch of salt:

    In some cases you have / at the end of a tag

    looking at the source, one line of meta...

    Code:
    <meta name="distribution" content="Global" />
    what's "/>" mean at the end, should it be just ">"?

    another line (not meta data):
    Code:
    <font CLASS="Menu_Title">MENU</font><br />
    again "/>" at the end


    Just a small layout issue on FF the page is 'big', the bottom scroll bar appears and I can pull the bar across and just see 'wood'
    Last edited by manwithnoname; 07-05-2007 at 09:58 PM. Reason: spelling and missing words added

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    @manwithnoname
    the "/>" is for XHTML, which should be just the ">" as you pointed out, as the OP is trying to get the page to validate in HTML.

    @ibm
    Is there any specific reason for all them meta tags? the meta tags I would have are just the Keywords and Description, and possibly the Charset, all the others don't really serve a purpose from what I know, I have done web design for about 4-5 years, not as a career, just for fun , as manwithnoname says in firefox the page is stretched to the right to just see wood.


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    Iain M is spot on. You are trying to validate your page as HTML but you are using XHTML specific syntax. If you want your page to validate as valid HTML replace your meta and link tags with:

    Code:
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
    <meta name="keywords" content="Home, Web Development, Budget Web Development, Internet Development, Ecommerce, CMS, SEO">
    <meta name="author" content="Ninesquare Systems Ltd.">
    <meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="TRUE">
    <meta name="resource-type" content="document">
    <meta name="distribution" content="Global">
    <meta name="rating" content="General">
    <meta name="country" content="UK">
    <meta name="coverage" content="worldwide">
    <meta name="language" content="english">
    <meta name="audience" content="all">
    <meta name="expires" content="NEVER">
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="NS_Includes/CSS/NS_Stylesheet.css" media="screen">
    I checked your page using XHTML validation as well and you have more errors but they shouldn't be too hard to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia View Post
    1.) is this "your business"
    2.) Why does a web design business need someone else to do their design ?
    3.) by posting on here with the real url / business name if anyone googled for it, you'd most likley get this thread showing a webdesign company asking questions/getting someone else to design their site - possible best to change the url / for testing to avoid this.
    1) It is my business, but not web development. I started a company to set up a online service for my father which required payment process, with required a business bank account. So now I have a business, and since I have to pay for it, I figure I might be able to pull in some extra business doing various websites for people....but since I'm concentrating on getting my ethnic and contemporary furniture business up and running, Cantik Home (www.cantik.co.uk) and thinking about doing my MBA this year, I doubt I'll have any time for it. But, I get irritated when I think there's nothing up there and I might be passing up an opportunity.

    2) See answer 1

    3) Very true. Do you think Hexus will allow me to change the first post to "Wow!! Look!! Amazing web design and development!!!"

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    I think these errors are coming from:

    Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
    It ties in with whats already been said, you're specifying an HTML document but have XHTML syntax.

    I'm quite new myself so could well be wrong, but I think thats what it is...

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    Cheers guys, gonna try to strip some stuff out and see what happens. I'm pretty sure that I've been able to achieve transitional compliance while using XHMTL syntax on other sites, but I'll give it a shot.
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    It looks like a lot of the errors being generated were down to lack of closing tags on a couple of the meta tags....but as McClane pointed out it was so close to being XHTML transitional that I went and did that instead.

    Now I want to check the CSS but it doesn't seem to be working. Anyone else having this problem?
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    If you use the CSS direct input it works, but not the URL input one...

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