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    I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Ubuntu is currently 70% installed on my laptop. I had a play with the live CD for a while, my first time ever using Linux, and I am so impressed that it's getting installed as I type this.

    I love the fact that I can still use the system while it's installing!

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    just remember that it's not windows, and you'll be fine

    that's the key issue really - people expect it to behave like windows

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    indeed, i found the biggest shock is how much easier it is to install software... once you stop trying to download it off the net and compile it, and just use synaptic...

    heh

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Welcome to the 'Linux club'! As directhex says, don't expect it to be windows and you will be fine. Early things to understand is to get away from the device centric Windows concept! So you don't look for a file on a hard drive, you look for a file - as a user you don't care where it is! So it is worth learning some of the file hierachy (a google search on Linux filesystem) may help, but basically user files are in /home/username, configuration files are generally in /etc log and other suer files may be in /var to cover the basics.

    At some point you may have to use the Command line - and this is where linux is very powerful - but just start getting used to a stable multitasking operating system for now and enjoy!

    (BTW - when you are ready, a book tailored to your distro will be useful and make a steep learning curv e more gentle - try "Ubuntu Hacks" published by O'Reilly, or
    "Ubuntu for Non-Geeks, Second Edition" also published by O'Reilly. An amazon browse using Ubuntu will identify a load more. Finally there is loads of information on the internet and of course herte on Hexus!

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    I'm battling with linux myself (on the eee) which takes me back (quite) a few years to my UNIX days before I escaped academia for the real world. It is, generally, pretty easy - aside from needing to delve into the command line (with it's deliberately obscufated syntax) to get some of the more complex configuration done. Had a bit of trouble with synaptics and tbh the easiest way to get Opera on there (which i needed as firefox is slow/crashy) was to download the bin and manually install it (from the command line). I'm pretty determined not to slap XP over it though - at least not yet - as it really does the job admirably in such a low power environment.
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Using apt from the command line is probably just as easy as using synaptic - once you havre broken out of the "comfort zone" of the Gui! I think Opera more or less installs itself - just select Ubuntu (or whatever) as the OS and go!

    (I used apt on a Redhat 9 system, and found it pretty easy to use once it was set up although Fedora uses yum by default with its owngui front-end, pup)
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Yup i've had a play with linux and it looks good, very different from the windows systems i'm used to and a good few things to learn.

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Getting close to doing this myself. Just waiting for KDE4 to be released.

    Been looking at PCLinuxOS and LinuxMint as well as Kubuntu.

    Is it possible to get Linux to boot without a password, does anybody know please?
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    you can get linux to boot without a password yes. Few distros have a password on the boot loader.

    I assume you actually mean login post boot automaticlly, the answer is still yes to that on both the command line, gdm and kdm
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    Getting close to doing this myself. Just waiting for KDE4 to be released.

    Been looking at PCLinuxOS and LinuxMint as well as Kubuntu.

    Is it possible to get Linux to boot without a password, does anybody know please?
    Yiou might be able to set a null password for user accounts, but I don't know if you can for root - probably not - Linux tends to enforce security! (Why would you want to?)
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    I've done the same with my work laptop.... Vista needed a reinstall, so id thought id try something different, Fedora Core 8 supports my chipset, only issue is no wireless and i cant for the life of me get software installed, one being firefox....

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    Yes, I want to just turn on the PC and leave it to boot to the OS.

    I see the point about Root, as that's a strong point with Linux (seems Fista might have, in effect, copied it).
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    Yes, I want to just turn on the PC and leave it to boot to the OS.

    I see the point about Root, as that's a strong point with Linux (seems Fista might have, in effect, copied it).
    right then. in gdm (which is what gnome on ubuntu uses, can't comment on other login managers or distros), log in and go to System, Administration, Login Window. go to the Security tab, enable automatic login, and pick your user from the list

    job jobbed. this is how my mythtv machine works - boot, load gdm, log in automatically as mythtv user, run frontend.

    the account will still be passworded - it just won't need one to log in locally via gdm. if you want to know how this is achieved technically & security-consciously, ask.

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Thanks directhex.

    Yes please - I'm determiined to go over to Linux (not dual-boot; more separate HDs and some sort of method to run Win. progs. that I need) next year.

    I just don't like anything that mucks me about - press a button and let it go!

    I'm slowly building up a file of useful links, then need to decide on the distro.
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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    ... and some sort of method to run Win. progs. that I need) next year.
    I have brought a copy of Code Weavers Cross Over Linux. It is a sort of emulator(*) that allows you to run windows applications at native speed from within linux. MS office runs very nicely under it, as do a few dev tools I need. Other applications don't run so well, your millage may vary. In any case there is compatibility list you can browse to see how well your indented application runs, and you can download a demo version to try. It costs $40 for single user version, or $70 for one with more configurablility (but the same app support). Thanks to the weak dollar that is quite affordable.

    Another option, if you have a recent CPU, preferably dual core, is to run Windows as a virtuallised guest OS. Application support will be a lot better, (except for games), but programs will run a little more slowly, and you will need a licenced copy of windows. It is also fairly new, which means harder to setup than something mature. I have not tried it, as my three year old CPU does not have the necessary hardware support.

    (* Yes I know that Cross Over is based on Wine, that stands for "Wine is not an emulator", but how else would you succinctly describe it?)

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    Re: I've taken the plunge! (Installed Linux)

    Quote Originally Posted by chrestomanci View Post
    (* Yes I know that Cross Over is based on Wine, that stands for "Wine is not an emulator", but how else would you succinctly describe it?)
    it's a compatibility layer - it's no less native than running 32-bit windows apps on 64-bit windows, except the libraries are reverse-engineered

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