So, this Vista thing

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Apparently the fact that it ran like crap on my machine was down to my machine not being powerful enough and bad driver support.
its a year down the line, should I be installing Vista yet, dont get me wrong I love XP and with sp3 coming theres no real reason to move over, but Vista's new and shiney and I like new shiney things...

So, have the random file copy speeds been fixed, copy a file, says its going to take it thousands and thousands of days, cancel it, copy it again and its fine.

WMP stutters like buggery

XFi didnt work properly

~30fps slower in games under Vista compaired to XP

Anything else I've missed..

[MadduckUK]

theres no real reason to move over, but Vista's new and shiney and I like new shiney things...

me too, so i changed from the "classic" theme to royale noir, and changed from a plain blue wallpaper to something a little bit more fancy...

= instant shinyness

if id been really crazy i could have done something with transparencies but that's SO 2007...

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I've already got one of the Vista backdrops on XP but must admit I do use the classic look as I like to tweak for performance a bit, think in 1 post that you;ve already made my mind up to just reinstall XP and give it a tweak rather than take the risk to the still (IMHO) public beta that is the release version of Vista..

[Rishi]

X-Fi does work properly on Vista now. I believe there is a mini guide on the forums somewhere, Dangel might have wrote it.

The file copy issues have been resolved with latest updates too

Its getting there slowly...

[Splash]

have you upgraded your machine? I'm led to believe that the official X-Fi drivers still blow (way to go Creative!) but that there are some unofficial drivers that kick bottom. What VGA card do you have?

The random file copy bug was hotfixed and I can confirm that I no longer experience the issue on any of my 3 Vista machines (1 x64, 2 32 bit) though I noticed that Agent mentioned in a post elsewhere that some people are still experiencing the issue.

WMP stuttering... well, I can only say that this is not a problem I've personally experienced since RTM (though I did see it in beta) - could your issue have been codec related?

As has already been mentioned in a million and twelve other places it's an OS designed to be run on today's hardware, and as such you'd be doing yourself no favours running it on 18 month old kit (that said, after a RAM upgrade it runs fine on my Core Duo lappy) but if you _do_ have some decent gear then it should run fine.

[Blitzen]

~30fps slower in games under Vista compaired to XP

If thats what you are experiencing then its definitely something you havent set correctly.
There is no way on this earth my machine runs games taking that sort of hit from Vista and XP.

It is weird though that some people experience problems that others dont.

Is it anything to do with the hardrives, even though formatted, still have bits of XP knocking about and that affects them?

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When I did run V64u for about a month it game my machine a score of 5.9 on everything but gaming gfx which it gave 5.8, that was on my old x1950 card which has now been replaced by an HD3850 so the people that originally said it must of been my machine obv dont know theres a spec list over thar <-------

[Blitzen]

When I did run V64u for about a month it game my machine a score of 5.9 on everything but gaming gfx which it gave 5.8, that was on my old x1950 card which has now been replaced by an HD3850 so the people that originally said it must of been my machine obv dont know theres a spec list over thar <-------

I saw the spec list.
Would a 3850 give 5.9?

Also, that Score thing is a load of ole poo.

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Re the HDD thing, fresh install with full format of drive as I do with all OS installs, old habits n all that...
I know the score things wildly inaccurate but if Vista itself sees the kit as decent then surely it would run it as such?

[Blitzen]

Re the HDD thing, fresh install with full format of drive as I do with all OS installs, old habits n all that...
I know the score things wildly inaccurate but if Vista itself sees the kit as decent then surely it would run it as such?

Thats what i would expect too.
THing is, i think the scoring was introduced to help people choose software. The game is rated and if the software can play it its alright to buy.
Problem is, the score always goes to the lowest one. SO everything can be 5.9 then for example a HD scores 5.1 then so does everything else. Weird innit>

Is that a full Vista installation or an upgrade btw?

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Full fresh install, Vista64 Ultimate, was patched upto date as well when it was installed.

[shaithis]

The xfi drivers were quite poor for a while (problems with 4gb+) but have been working great for a while now.

Other then that, every other issue I have had since installing vista (2 PCs since week of release) have been hardware issues.

[TheAnimus]

Creative have always had dodgy drivers, i remeber after hours of effort finally getting to speak to someone in their support team, who wasn't a retard, who kindly explained it just wasn't worth their while supporting MPC, as there was no way this would ever be used in the home. This was about 18months before hyperthreading became the norm.

Vista had been hudgely delayed, but the sound architecture hadn't changed much, creative had no excuse for such a poor level of offerings in my mind. But they did have a business intrest to make it look poor. EAX or what ever the hell its called now was a big thing. I remeber turning on the extensions in Half-Life and rather than thinking hmm, this is a bit melodramatic, i was blown away by the echo, the underwater etc.

MS tried to abstract that away from creatives platform even further. This of course is of no intrest to Creative who wants all games to have shiny Creative brandings on them, using Creative technologies. MS want it all to Be Direct-X.

Guess who's going to win?

[directhex]

Guess who's going to win?

openal.

what's been "abstracted" is the complete removal of hardware acceleration from directsound3d. which means any apps which try to use hardware effects over directsound3d (e.g. anything which uses that api plus EAX or A3D) will fall back to generic stereo

so that amazement you had in HL? that's gone. apps which use openal (e.g. id tech 4 onwards, unrealengine 2 onwards, torque) will be accelerated, including EAX, on any hardware whose drivers provide an openal backend (nforce audio, audigy, and x-fi), and no worse than non-openal games

[Agent]

The file copy issues have been resolved with latest updates too

Afraid there is still people having the issue, its not 100% solved by the looks of it

[pollaxe]

^Yup, I've still got the file copy issue on one of my Vista machines at home (fully patched.)