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    Hi, I started my first website about 12 months ago and I've got around 20 or so sites now. I make a small amount from each website as an affiliate. Now when I started I simply registered the domain I wanted with 123 reg, and at the time QiQ were offerering 12 months hosting for £2 which was a steal so I got my hosting with them. I've been registering a few sites each month and I expect this to grow.

    Does there become a point when it would be more viable to rent or purchase my own server and host all my stuff there? None of the sites I run are particularly bandwidth intensive and I'm now paying approx £20+ a year for hosting each of my sites. I may have upto 30 sites soon and thats £600 P.A on hosting alone.

    Can anyone advise me on the best thing to do and any advice on whom I should host my accounts with.

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    Re: some hosting / domain questions

    Depends on alot really..

    Firstly what are your sites running on and how do you manage them? Manually on a site by site basis, or using something horrible like CPanel?

    You can get dedicated servers from around £50/month upwards (rented), depending on the server spec and if you want to be running windows or not.

    Going a step further and co-locating starts from £30/month or so for an out of london datacenter (not reccomended) or £50/month upwards for good colo in the center of london. You have to buy a server upfront here, which will cost you £400+

    So it really depends how much you pay, and how much admin work you have to do. If you are stuck with something like cpanel then it makes sense to just move to a managed dedicated linux server thats rented, and includes a cpanel licence. Should cost around £100 a month with a decent amount of bandwidth, assuming UK hosting. Otherwise you can get a better server for the same price (sans cpanel) or go cheaper

    £600 a year might sound alot for thats not bad for 20+ sites, and its roughly half the cost of co-locating or going the dedicated route.

    All that said I do run a company that can provide all the services I have just mentioned, albeit usually targetted to the business end of the market...but feel free to drop me an email (pete@uk3x.com) if you like with your requirements and I can probably do you a deal (Apologies if this sounds like i'm advertising..but I think it adds value to the post, lmk if you disagree admins)

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    Re: some hosting / domain questions

    Hi Spud thanks for your help. My sites support php so that means they are running on a linux server right? Basically, by the looks of things its not yet worth my while moving over to a dedicated server. I'll have to add quite a few more sites before that's feasible.

    But when the time comes I might drop you an email

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    Re: some hosting / domain questions

    Building your own server isn't very hard these days and setting it up is pretty simple too. I've got a fair few websites as well and was in a similar situation to you a couple of months back.

    I ended up building my own server, installing cpanel on it and colocating it with poundhost.com, who i fully reccomend as they treat you like proper customers and the service is of teh highest ive come across. Also, if your a bit of a newbie to setting up a server, they will install an OS, all the software needed and cpanel as well as setting up the server at the datacentre for a one off cost of £40.

    Your best bet imo is to build your own server and colocate it.

    Anyway, good luck.

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    Re: some hosting / domain questions

    Building a server is simple enough - but still expensive to do properly..a 1u case complete with psu, cooling system and 1u CPU cooler will still run to £150-£200, and server grade cpu/ram/mobo will be another few hundred. Yes you can just stick in a celeron cpu, jetway board and bog standard DDR ram but unless you live close to your datacenter its really just asking for trouble. I've learnt this the hard way - you do NOT want to be driving down to london in the middle of the night because your cheap £40 motherboard has just had a fit!

    CPanel is expensive to buy (around £250 for a single licence), but they will fully configure it for you if you buy it, which is nice. Personally I think its one of the products that seem to be everywhere, but are really really terrible products (just like wordpress), but its popular, kind of a standard if your running a linux webserver these days.


    Colo/dedicated is still better value if you already own a server, plan to increase usage dramatically over 24 months, or are going to be running anything cpu intensive that a standard webhosting account or VDS won't let you run, but otherwise as stated above I think its going to work out more expensive

    edit: PHP isn't linux only pdug175, works great on Windows too I suspect your probably on linux though, the majority of webhosts still use it as Windows server licences are just so expensive for commercial use!

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    Re: some hosting / domain questions

    You can get a full cpanel license for $48 month which isnt that bad. https://www.buycpanel.com/cpanel_full_license.php

    Many of the latest motherboards and cpu's from the likes of Asus and Intel and more than sufficient for a server, my friend owns evhosting.co.uk and he uses them for his gaming servers- which havent failed yet... a sempron processor and jetway motherboard is just asking to fail.

    Dedicated is the way to go if you dont want all the hassle, but colocation is great if you want full control, a decent spec'd server and a low cost.

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