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    Hi wanting to try Linux and see what its like... im wanting to get another basic pc to use for downloading so thought mite aswell try linux on that pc.. any tips on which type of linux to use ?

    and any general tips/advice for doing this?
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    Re: noob at linux

    ubuntu is becoming the "generic linux", so i'd start there

    and the top tip is "don't expect it to be windows"

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    Also expect it to stop working if you change your graphics card to ATI... My ubuntu doesn't load anymore
    Oh well, at least good old XP is still working!

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    Re: noob at linux

    cheers just thought id try it and yeah i know it isnt windows and i have a nvidia card

    whats linux like for gaming? instead of using xp ?
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    Re: noob at linux

    If you're planning on using the system in your "my system" with the 8800GTS (re-read your post, seems your not...), you may have one or two issues that may mean that you have some extra configurations to do before you get a desktop (at least I did).

    I found a program called envy helped here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer^ View Post
    whats linux like for gaming? instead of using xp ?
    I think "remember it's not windows" applies here.

    You can play games on it, but don't expect any more than 60% performance compared to windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajbrun View Post
    If you're planning on using the system in your "my system" with the 8800GTS, you may have one or two issues that may mean that you have some extra configurations to do before you get a desktop (at least I did).

    I found a program called envy helped here.
    or grab the 8.04 beta on the ubuntu website

    the issue ajbrun mentions is quite correct - the nvidia driver in the current "stable" ubuntu release, 100.14.19, supports several 8000-series cards, but not the 8800 GT, 8800 GTS 512 or GeForce 8800M. the beta release supports all cards up to but not including the 9000 series, without use of special tools (like the aforementioned Envy)

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    Re: noob at linux

    you have to load most games through wine... I wouldn't bother tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajbrun View Post
    I think "remember it's not windows" applies here.

    You can play games on it, but don't expect any more than 60% performance compared to windows.
    performance will be good for *linux games*

    windows games will... run much better than ps2 games do on an xbox, but don't expect silken smoothness, or even all games to work at all. many do, not all. no-cd cracks help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajbrun View Post
    You can play games on it, but don't expect any more than 60% performance compared to windows.

    That totally depends on the game and your hardware!
    A lot of games (like UT2004) are on par with the Windows version, and in some cases faster, although not many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post

    That totally depends on the game and your hardware!
    A lot of games (like UT2004) are on par with the Windows version, and in some cases faster, although not many.
    ut2004 performance is... different. it's far smoother. the minimum framerate under intense load is much higher. the average is lower, but the game is smoother, if that makes sense.

    and before anyone asks, the newest big-name game for linux is et:qw

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    Re: noob at linux

    If you want to try linux to get a feel for it, you could run it through a virtual machine. There are a couple of free solutions; VirtualBox and Virtual PC 2007 although the latter does require a a few additional steps (they work with 7.10 too but I've yet to test 8.04) to get Ubuntu running smoothly - nothing major and once done it runs a treat. VMware is another option but it costs.

    It least that would allow you to continue using your existing OS until you're comfortable.
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    yeah so im probmrly gna stay with xp for the moment on my gaming machine but proberly gna still try it on a media pc im gna get
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    Re: noob at linux

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    ut2004 performance is... different. it's far smoother. the minimum framerate under intense load is much higher. the average is lower, but the game is smoother, if that makes sense.

    and before anyone asks, the newest big-name game for linux is et:qw
    Yeah it does. I could clearly tell the difference between the Windows and Linux (under Ubuntu) clients online. It wasn't even a splitting hairs thing, it is far smoother on my system under Ubuntu.

    Does UT3 have a Linux client? I don't really like UT3 that much compared to 04....it was supposed to ship with it like 04 but after their new found partnership with MS, I've no idea if it went though.
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    Yeah it does. I could clearly tell the difference between the Windows and Linux (under Ubuntu) clients online. It wasn't even a splitting hairs thing, it is far smoother on my system under Ubuntu.

    Does UT3 have a Linux client? I don't really like UT3 that much compared to 04....it was supposed to ship with it like 04 but after their new found partnership with MS, I've no idea if it went though.
    an unnamed third party is refusing licensing of their tech for linux use. clever money is on ageia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    an unnamed third party is refusing licensing of their tech for linux use. clever money is on ageia.
    Surprised that's still an issue considering they were bought by nVidia.
    My only concern is should I hide my true identity? A costume maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    an unnamed third party is refusing licensing of their tech for linux use. clever money is on ageia.
    meh. thats a pain in the arse. more so considering its not even a hardware thing.

    Heck, there isn't really any major physics used online in the game compared to others. Besides, there is a server for Linux isn't there? Considering most of the hit detection is done server side in the unreal engine, I'm really struggling to see the issue over ageia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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