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    Question What is it that fragments the drive?

    Hi, i was wondering if someone could give me an idea of what are the main files/processes that fragment the drive - I've made a separate partition for windows vista, and I've installed all my programs etc, and don't add, downloaded, or move things around on it, but it always seems to end up fragmented after not so long?

    is there certain things i can move off there, to another partition to keep this one running smooth - swap/page files? how do u move those from default locations....has that got anything to do with it...and recycle bins? or are they stored on the individual drive partitions.

    sorry if that too many questions at once.

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    Re: What is it that fragments the drive?

    AFAIK it's the OS that fragments the drive, to ensure that it can write files quickly, they've not bothered to add a routine that ensures files go onto sequential sections of the disc. Instead things are literally written to the disc as the computer thinks of it and has a blank sector underneath the write head.

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    Re: What is it that fragments the drive?

    yeh the os doesnt write files in segments i.e. a mp3 file could be spread all over the HDD in a random order, it's a case of whats quickest at the time of write
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    Re: What is it that fragments the drive?

    ahh ok guys, so it's bascially just the way the OS works and handles the data, thanks for your replies.

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    Re: What is it that fragments the drive?

    it's a file system "feature". i drew a diagram once. let me find it

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    Re: What is it that fragments the drive?

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