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    Best Linux OS?

    Whats your favourite linux distro or u think is the best?

    So far ive used, opensuse 10.3, ubuntu, freespire and fedora 9,

    Opensuse is my favourite, i just like the overall feel of it.

    ubuntu, i dont like, reminds me of 90's mac os

    freespire is nice with all the propeierty stuff, but not all that.

    fedora9 with kde4 is nice, but overall i dont like it.

    Ive heard good things about PCLinuxOS and Mandriva so will give them a try.

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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    OpenSUSE at the moment, but I go into periods of wanton pain and suffering, and install Gentoo.
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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    Depends what you want it to do. For a user-friendly desktop environment Ubuntu has it hands down as far as I'm concerned. When you say it reminds you of 90's MacOS, you mean the user interface? If that's the case then it's just GNOME desktop, you can customise it the way you want it. If you really don't like GNOME then Kubuntu is the same OS but with a KDE interface instead.

    For desktop it basically comes down to hardware support, user interface and ease of package management. Given you can choose Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu (XFCE interface), the wealth of hardware support for Ubuntu and the brilliant APT/Debian package management you can't really go wrong with Ubuntu or one of it's derivatives.
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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    Personally I like Fedora - currently on FC 6 with the Gnome gui. Updating is a breeze with the Gnome graphical interface to Yum, and some third party repositries for those harder to get codecs etc! I have two machines running it - one is a web and mail server and just churns away 24x7 without blinking. The other one is on my main desktop machine (which iirc is set up to dual boot - but I can't remember the last time I booted it into Windows.

    Finally Irun it on my laptop - also dual boot, and I do occasionally boot that into Windows for a couple of Win only apps.
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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    opensuse for me atm.
    may buy a laptop so i have something quite decent to run it on..
    dual booting linux with vista seem a bit of a pain atm.
    that said ive got weeks and weeks holiday so if i get really bored may just dual boot.
    fedora 9 with KDE4 looks awesome and so does opensuse with KDE4 or Gnome.
    gonna wait until KDE4 is more stable.
    with opensuse its very easy to install the non free stuff such as codecs,flash,java etc
    http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia
    i have tryed ubuntu,kubuntu,linspire,mandriva fedora and opensuse.
    opensuse network install is execellent. download the 76mb .iso burn it to a cd and follow the steps.
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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    i find myself consistently disappointed every time i use somthing without debian heritage. currently, that means ubuntu (though some policy decisions annoy me)

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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    Well, Arch inherited some of Slack's design, and it worked rather well, and despite their lack of developers they've amassed a rather large repository of packages that are very close to upstream, it's a philosophy that makes sense, and it avoids stupid things like the openssl fiasco.

    However, I still feel more comfortable in a Gentoo environment, and it's ludicrously large package selection. That's about the only reason I dropped Arch when I felt I was familiar with it.
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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Well, Arch inherited some of Slack's design, and it worked rather well, and despite their lack of developers they've amassed a rather large repository of packages that are very close to upstream, it's a philosophy that makes sense, and it avoids stupid things like the libssl fiasco.

    However, I still feel more comfortable in a Gentoo environment, and it's ludicrously large package selection. That's about the only reason I dropped Arch when I felt I was familiar with it.
    the libssl fiasco reveals a lot about upstream as much as anything else. the sad fact is, for MANY upstreams, 1) they're not interested in patches from packagers, especially ones which don't provide an immediate benefit for *their* favourite platform, and 2) too many projects which are considered "important" don't have anyone to handle communication with the assorted distro maintainers

    i've observed a fair few "discussions" between packagers and upstream, and sometimes they're downright hostile - of the "it works in our favourite distro, we will not fix it, your bug does not exist, LALALALALALALA" variety

    frankly, a lot of the time, downstream patches are IMPORTANT - without them, a distro can end up feeling like a bunch of files thrown on the same hard disk, where simple steps haven't been taken to make the experience work (even simple things like ensuring correct versions of libraries are agreed upon by several apps, or changes in pkg-config names are properly reflected, and so on)

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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    the libssl fiasco reveals a lot about upstream as much as anything else. the sad fact is, for MANY upstreams, 1) they're not interested in patches from packagers, especially ones which don't provide an immediate benefit for *their* favourite platform, and 2) too many projects which are considered "important" don't have anyone to handle communication with the assorted distro maintainers

    i've observed a fair few "discussions" between packagers and upstream, and sometimes they're downright hostile - of the "it works in our favourite distro, we will not fix it, your bug does not exist, LALALALALALALA" variety

    frankly, a lot of the time, downstream patches are IMPORTANT - without them, a distro can end up feeling like a bunch of files thrown on the same hard disk, where simple steps haven't been taken to make the experience work (even simple things like ensuring correct versions of libraries are agreed upon by several apps, or changes in pkg-config names are properly reflected, and so on)
    I agree, very often downstream package maintainers are the first port of call for users to lodge bugs and fixes, downstream verifies the bugs and patch effectiveness and applies them to the package, and if it's a non-distro specific bug, they lodge a bug upstream with the patch. In this case however, this patch introduced a vulnerability, and I don't see how that is upstreams fault for not accepting it, it seems they made the right call, this time at least. This is generally why the openbsd crowd are so obstinate (and sometimes downright rude) with accepting feature patches.
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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    I agree, very often downstream package maintainers are the first port of call for users to lodge bugs and fixes, downstream verifies the bugs and patch effectiveness and applies them to the package, and if it's a non-distro specific bug, they lodge a bug upstream with the patch. In this case however, this patch introduced a vulnerability, and I don't see how that is upstreams fault for not accepting it, it seems they made the right call, this time at least. This is generally why the openbsd crowd are so obstinate (and sometimes downright rude) with accepting feature patches.
    the problem with the openssl bug was that it was applied twice - once where it was correct to do so, and once where it broke everything. re-using nondescript variable names and lack of source comments didn't help.

    the patch in question was actually shown to the openssl-dev mailing list, and judged as "seemingly fine", but apparently there's a second, super-secret mailing list which isn't in the docs or on the web or anything like that, where the "real" devs hang out

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    Re: Best Linux OS?

    what on earth did they double-patch it for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    what on earth did they double-patch it for?
    a line of code was essentially "bad", and reported by valgrind as a potential security hole. the package maintainer wrote a patch. the exact same line of code appeared later on - but this copy had rather different behaviour, and patching THAT line is what caused the security snafu

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