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    State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Whats the best for compressing to MPEG-4/DivX these days?

    I used to follow what was going on with Doom9.org, but his codec comparisons are 3 years old now and I can't be bothered wading through the forums.

    Is the payed for DivX 6.8Pro converter worth it? I have a bunch of recorded TV i'd like to make smaller for getting it on the Archos 605 I'm planning to get.

    I don't need the ultimate, just something that is good, easy and reliable. Can't be bothered messing with multiple tools these days

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    "mpeg 4" is a wide church. "mpeg 4 part 2" covers one codec, implementations of which include divx and xvid. "mpeg 4 part 10" covers a different one, commonly referred to as h264 (again there are many implementations). part 2 codecs are MUCH easier on the cpu, but they look proportionately worse at the same bitrate

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    oh come on, you know what I mean!

    No need to get technical on my ass!



    OK, I really meant MPEG-4 Part 2 then. as in what people usually rip to etc.

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    If you have a fast CPU or plenty of time to encode, have a look at MeGUI for encoding in x264... Its quite simple to use and I have had good results with this in the past. There are guides all over the net (including doom9 iirc)

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    How does x264 compare to DivX/Xvid with SD footage?

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    How does x264 compare to DivX/Xvid with SD footage?
    better image quality at lower bitrates. if only someone said that already

    i do my dvd ripping to h264, since both 360 and ps3 play it fine

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Make sure you stick to a Level 4.1 or lower for compatibility with hardware decoders...

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    better image quality at lower bitrates. if only someone said that already
    yes ok, ok

    What kind of space saving are we talking? The H.264 plugin for the 605 is €20 would it be worth it do you think? I'll probably have to get the MPEG-2/VOB/DVD plugin too so thats another €20.

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    mmmm... probably 2:1 versus part 2. hard to say without testing it really.

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Wouldnt say it was as good as 2:1 but h.264 (I use MeGUI and x264) is better, I find I can leave stuff at full resolution rather than reducing to 640 by something, plus AAC (using the FREE [as in beer] neroAAC encoder) at 5.1. Dont forget to use anamorphic encoding - allows you to maintain the information in the original DVD rather than resizing - if you make keep the horizontal resolution you will loose vertical information and vice versa you will be adding made up horizontal information and wasting bit rate.

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    h264 is the wave of the future. It does take a looong time to encode though.

    Handbrake is a pretty sweet app, whether you want to encode to divx/xvid or h264. It makes good use of a quad core.

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    there was a fantastic item on this in CustomPC last month
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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    FairUseWizard is easy to use and should give you all the options you need for encoding in any of the mentioned formats. One thing is that I find it occasionally hangs on muxing. If it does that, then I just copy the streams to AVIMux and mux it there.

    Oh wait. What format are your original recordings in? FUW will only rip .VOB from dvd or .iso.

    Maybe try WinAVI video converter with the Xvid codec or codec of your choice. I haven't heard many people with a good word to say about the DivX Pro converter, but they regularly make the whole package available for free download anyway. I don't like it myself.

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    h264 is the wave of the future. It does take a looong time to encode though.
    Not for long

    Check out the badaBOOM media convertor and HOW fast it transcodes using the CUDA plugin and the new Nvidia cards instead of the CPU. Massive increase in frame rendering and some quite silly video encoding times.

    It's about time that GPU was used for more really

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Very interesting Lee.

    Doesn't hel me as I only have an old Nvidia card (6800 i think). But I agree, would be good if more non-game software took advantage of GPUs

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    Re: State of play with compressing to MPEG-4?

    Absolutely. Especially with video encoding. All that wasted graphics processing power just sitting there. Crazy.

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